Morris (Axis) vs. Schnurri (Allies)

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Morris (Axis) vs. Schnurri (Allies)

Post by Schnurri »

Morris asked me to do another AAR with him starting with Barbarossa - I forgot and am only starting in Sept. 41.

Recap:

Mostly standard except no attempt for Norway. Because he is unlikely to launch Sea Lion or build many subs I decide to forgo ASW tech and try to blockade the withdrawal of Italians to Sicily. I declare war on Italy right before fall of France (a mistake as it turns out it upsets the US and they reduce their war effort - should have foreseen this). Blockade is pretty unsuccessful as most transports slip through somehow - sink 1 and damage another. I take the Italian NA ports at an early date and invade Sicily before it is covered with troops. Morris counters by sending Luftwaffe there and RN suffers heavily from them and the RM. When it becomes hopeless the RN tries to go back to the Atlantic (convoys have suffered due to lack of surface fleets in Atlantic) and Morris blocks at Gibralter with subs and Kriegsmarine. I sink most of Kriegsmarine including subs and finaly get out. Although the Sicilian gambit was a failure it did cause him to use lots of PP's and oil with the Luftwaffe in Italy.

Barbarossa - this was pretty standard for Morris with an INF heavy Armies in North and Center and ARM/Mech blob in the south. My defense was a less aggressive Max defense. I bought few leaders and built MECH/INF armies around Stalingrad/Rostov/Voronezeh. Invested in Anti-armor research and waited for armor bonus and efficiency to rise. By the time he got there I could attack his low efficiency armor with INF and get near even odds on the first attacks. So we have taken out several Arms already. We are thin but, Morris got a late start as severe winter went into the end of April and doesn't end til the first Allied move, so he got a one turn late start.

It is now 9/30/41 and he has not taken Rostov yet, let alone Stalingrad, suffered some armor losses and is knocking at the doors of Moscow and Leningrad with INF armies - now, weather will be the deciding factor.

9/30/41 Start

North
Here we can see Morris is knocking at the gates of Moscow and Leningrad with a largely INF army. It is Sept. 30 so it will be 50:50 whether he gets another good offensive turn or runs into snow or mud. As all the Luftwaffe is in the south I feel pretty good about holding out here til winter and then possibly reestablishing lines between Moscow and Leningrad. All I plan is to shore up defenses in this front.

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South
In the southern front we plan some more attempts to take out Mechs or Arms - even though the weather is fine, our anti-armor bonus gives us mostly even odds on the first attack and better on successive attacks. Goal is to blunt his armor "tip of the spear" and, where possible retake rail depots to prevent him railing up reinforcements.

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9/30/41 Finish

North
Nothing much up here just strengthen lines and hope for bad weather.

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South
The southern offensive goes fairly well as we take out 1 Mech and knock another to 1 step. Also setting up a possible INF pincer if he isn't careful. We've left some big defensive gaps but I don't think he will blunder forward much further even if the weather is good - and I have reinforcements coming if necessary.

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Re: Morris (Axis) vs. Schnurri (Allies)

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I went the anti tank research route as well - didn't arrive until well into 42 :(
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Re: Morris (Axis) vs. Schnurri (Allies)

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I was "more fortunate". Russians can be quite deadly to armor unsupported by INF or Tacs early on. I was also preparing a variant of your string defence but felt I had an opportunity earlier than I though would happen.

Ronnie - could you move this post to AAR's please? My mistake.
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Re: Morris (Axis) vs. Schnurri (Allies)

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I'm wondering whether Morris should invest more in airforce in order to improve his strategy. Good airforce can really help the Axis in CEAW.
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Re: Morris (Axis) vs. Schnurri (Allies)

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I think it is a simpe matter of pp's - his strategy involves focusing on ground forces for Russia. can't do everything.
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Re: Morris (Axis) vs. Schnurri (Allies)

Post by Peter Stauffenberg »

I think Morris'es strategy depends on his overwhelming ground forces in 1941 crippling the Russians. If he fails to do so and have to fight a war to the end then the lack of research effort into air will make the Axis lose the initiative earlier than necessary.

I think that Morris hasn't achieved much in the east in this game. He hasn't taken Leningrad (although the area is surrounded), not taken Moscow and not moved far beyond Rostov. It means the winter will be difficult for him unless he moves to a good defensive line now.

The very best players in GS are good at both offensive and defensive. You can't win against a very good opponent if you're good at just one. It will be interesting to see how well Morris can defend. The game will be decided in 1942 so Morris still has a chance to inflict a lot of damage on the Russians.
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Re: Morris (Axis) vs. Schnurri (Allies)

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Oct 20, 1941 - Mud!

Mud saves the day. No need for before and after. Morris will block my landings on Sardinia with a German Inf. That is 3 corps taken from either France or Russia to defend the Italians. My landings will likely fail now but...

In the 2 eastern campaign screenshots the only notes of interest are taking out the 1 step Mech and that Morris flew the Luftwaffe even in mud. I've now lost all my Mechs so rebuilding them and absorbing the Siberian reinforcements is the goal. 1 glaring mistake - I attacked with the Gar in front of Leningrad to replace with a Corps but stupidly didn't notice they were cut off.

I guess the question is whether attacking his armored spearpoint in fair weather is such a great idea or it is better to conserve the Mechs for winter. In this case I feel it was worth it to blunt his advance and save both Rostov and Stalingrad, at least for now. When winter hits I'll still have a small offensive force to cause more damage in the south.

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Re: Morris (Axis) vs. Schnurri (Allies)

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Stauffenberg wrote:I think Morris'es strategy depends on his overwhelming ground forces in 1941 crippling the Russians. If he fails to do so and have to fight a war to the end then the lack of research effort into air will make the Axis lose the initiative earlier than necessary.

I think that Morris hasn't achieved much in the east in this game. He hasn't taken Leningrad (although the area is surrounded), not taken Moscow and not moved far beyond Rostov. It means the winter will be difficult for him unless he moves to a good defensive line now.

The very best players in GS are good at both offensive and defensive. You can't win against a very good opponent if you're good at just one. It will be interesting to see how well Morris can defend. The game will be decided in 1942 so Morris still has a chance to inflict a lot of damage on the Russians.
We'll see if he retreats to the Dnepr or tries to hold at the Donets. I have a tendency to try to do too much during winter and when spring hits I'm pretty depleted. In this game I'll try some limited attacks against his armor and perhaps try to reestablish lines between Moscow and Leningrad. Much will depend on what Morris does. If he tries to stay where he is now I will hit him pretty hard in the south. If he retreats to a defensive line further west I'll be content to build my own defenses.
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Re: Morris (Axis) vs. Schnurri (Allies)

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Nov. 20/1941

Only took beginning shots here - forgot at the end. Severe winter hits and the Axis does some retreating. I'll place the Siberian troops next turn and start an offensive in the north.

In the Med Morris continues to reinforce Sardinia - I and a damaged Corps anyway to worry him.
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Nothing much in the North

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In the south I destroy the out of position Bulgarian Corps and get lucky against the Arm outside Rostov - he retreats across the river and is wiped out by two for Corps. The remaining Arm adjacent to Rostov will probably die next turn. I think I've destroyed 3 Arm and 2 Mech so far - not bad - and still holding Rostov.

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Re: Morris (Axis) vs. Schnurri (Allies)

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Morris doesn't appear to be as aggressive as in other games. Maybe he has changed his strategy a bit?
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Re: Morris (Axis) vs. Schnurri (Allies)

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Remember he got a late start due to bad luck with weather and then when I counterattacked he realized going forward wasn't going to gain much. He did succeed in wiping out my carefully preserved Mechs so the winter offensive will be less of a factor. Maybe all the fighting in Sicily also helped a little.
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Post by Crazygunner1 »

Think Morris realized that his tanks could be knocked out by 3-4 inf corps, then it is no fun advancing with armour any more. Makes him slowdown cause neither of his targets was in reach anyway.

Good work schnurri, you have already dealt the germans à heavy blow in the east.
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Re: Morris (Axis) vs. Schnurri (Allies)

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Crazygunner1 wrote:Think Morris realized that his tanks could be knocked out by 3-4 inf corps, then it is no fun advancing with armour any more. Makes him slowdown cause neither of his targets was in reach anyway.

Good work schnurri, you have already dealt the germans à heavy blow in the east.
tech upgrades make a big difference the Russian's early on - so its nice if you get em
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Re: Morris (Axis) vs. Schnurri (Allies)

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Nov. 29/41 Med Theatre

Morris slips more reinforcements into Sardinia, dooming that little adventure - how does he evade my sub? Anyway, put another sub around the port but it is probably too late.
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End of turn

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Eastern Front

Start

In the North Morris takes out a GAR hoping to take Leningrad next summer.

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In the South he retreats behind the Donets River for winter but still takes out some ground units with the Luftwaffe and ground forces. I hope to wipe out the Armored unit outside Rostov.

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End

In the North we try our luck on some Corps but can't destroy anything without air power.

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On the southern Front we attack the armored unit and can only reduce it to 3 steps. We move the Siberian reinforcements up for next turn.

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Morris's oil should be not so hot as he flew the Luftwaffe all winter defending Sicily, used them in his southern offensive and looks like they will fly all winter protecting his ill-gotten gains in southern Russia.

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holding on to Rostov is a major bonus - well done
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Re: Morris (Axis) vs. Schnurri (Allies)

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Nov. 29, 1942 - Turn Begin - In the Med Sardinia keeps going down - a landing feint brings out the remaining Italian BB which we hope to sink.

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On the Eastern Front Morris reshuffles the line in the North and continues weakening my units with air attacks in the south.

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Turn End

Pretty static in the North - In the south we remove the Armored units around Rostov.

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I'd like to 1) take back Kursk and maybe Stalino before winter's end. Don't think I can do much in the north against his infantry - not without air and I need to build my ground forces before spring arrives. He could take at least one of 3 objectives in summmer - Leningrad, Moscow or Rostov depending on where he commits his Tacs. The US has come in and I hope to be able to keep up distractions in the west to weaken any strong offensive in the East. There are no more armored units in view but I assume they are waiting somewhere west of Rostov and building up for the spring punch.
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Re: Morris (Axis) vs. Schnurri (Allies)

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Jan. 8, 1942 - Turn Start - in the Med the battle for Sardinia is over and Morris sends some Germans back to the mainland for the Spring offensive. Around Moscow he attacks a Corps where he can get 3 attacks. In the south he holds positions in the Rostov pocket. I hope I can clear this out and force him away from the Donetz by winter's end.

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Turn End - Fortify in the north and in the south we force the leader Corps to retreat and will hopefully take out some more Corps next turn. In the Med we finished off what I hope is the end of the RM.

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Stalino is possibly still within reach and Kursk is probable - but Morris is using his Tacs to keep his pocket in place for fair weather.
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Re: Morris (Axis) vs. Schnurri (Allies)

Post by Plaid »

Its impressive, how you halted Morris' offencive so effectively and with rather moderate casualties.
Can you please show that casualties screen?

I believe this game is in good position for allied victory, as with time passing axis will get weaker and weaker because of skipped techs and inproper unit use.
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Re: Morris (Axis) vs. Schnurri (Allies)

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Here are casualties at beginning of turn. Heavy Russian losses but hopefully have dented armor. Key was holding Rostov. Morris advanced too quickly with depleted armored units that were hit and then got bad weather. He has managed to keep me losing units through the bad weather.

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Re: Morris (Axis) vs. Schnurri (Allies)

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I had noticed Morris' strategy totally lack flexibility, so in 1942 he will try frontal attack in USSR no matter how bad odds will he have against your AT infantry. Effectively he will kill his own troops. Maybe he will capture Moscow or what else he wants, but I don't think he will be able to hold it even for one winter season.
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