a kind favor

Hammer4000 · Post by **Hammer4000** » Fri Jan 06, 2012 6:49 pm

is there anyone,who can create a simple 39' sen, for GS-2.0 with just England,Poland @ war with Germany. ALL other nations being, netural. There really needs to be updated map editor.

welk · Post by **welk** » Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:25 pm

It would need 2 minutes to build it. But what situation does you want for others countries (France, Italy, Urss, Bulgaria, etc) : absolute neutral (total indetermination, down-able by the 2 sides) or affiliated neutral (Axis or Allied) ? It is not exactly the same situation.

Hammer4000 · Post by **Hammer4000** » Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:58 pm

It would need 2 minutes to build it. But what situation does you want for others countries (France, Italy, Urss, Bulgaria, etc) : absolute neutral (total indetermination, down-able by the 2 sides) or affiliated neutral (Axis or Allied) ? It is not exactly the same situation.

the fact someone, in this case you is interested, has made my day, and uh yea sorry about details. Thank you

Everyone is absolute neutral except UK & Poland at war with Germany. I'm fine with everything else as is.

welk · Post by **welk** » Fri Jan 06, 2012 10:23 pm

The adapted 1939 scen is here :
http://dl.free.fr/jy4F9W5FO
(updated - forgotten in the first given scen file to modify war entry dates)

(to download, click on the link named : "télécharger le fichier" (in grey letters), at the center right of screen

Due to the fact there is a publicity, the link needs to be clicked for a first attempt, and then clicked a second time to have the definitive file

Hammer4000 · Post by **Hammer4000** » Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:03 am

I very much appreciate it! stranger. Is by what can be done, and create though text files, i mean how difficult is it really. This set up that you made, i had down a long while back with the Map Editor, for the original. Either way thank you again.

welk · Post by **welk** » Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:35 am

No any difficulty to do that :
see the basic guide here :
viewtopic.php?t=25299
(pages 1 and 2 of the concerned thread)

You have just to open 1939 scen file with bloc notes(txt), and at the end of the file, to search the following great block (is pasted in end of this page) : Each country is listed with economical and diplomatical parameters

If you want to change the diplomatical situation of a country, (i.e : Italy = code 1), you have just to replace the red sub-block by :

false false 300 true true 2090 11 30 If you want Italy as absolute neutral
false false 100 true true 2090 11 30 If you want Italy as "Axis neutral"
false false 200 true true 2090 11 30 If you want Italy as "Allied neutral"

true false 100 true true 2090 11 30 If you want Italy immediatly at war as Axis
true false 200 true true 2090 11 30 If you want Italy immediatly at war as Allied (*)

(*) you will have just, in addition for this case, to modify a simple line in general.txt, and write 99 in place of the basic number of italian cities needed to enforce italian surrender

ITALIAN_CITIES_NEEDED 99 /* Number of Italian cities needed to capture to enforce surrender */
(There will never 99 italian cities in allies hands, so anticipated italian surrender will never occur)

0 20 875 150 0 1058 11 100 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 3 0 true false 100 true true 2090 11 30
1 0 215 150 0 358 1 10 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 false false 100 true true 1940 5 7
2 15 371 600 0 570 10 45 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 2 1 true false 200 true true 2090 11 31
3 0 315 200 0 420 5 30 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 true false 200 true true 2090 11 31
4 0 290 200 10 646 40 4 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 2 2 1 1 1 2 2 1 false false 200 true true 1941 10 29
5 0 1200 50 20 1941 0 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 false false 200 true true 1942 4 8
6 0 87 0 0 87 0 20 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 false false 300 false true 2090 11 31
7 0 83 0 0 83 0 20 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 false false 300 false true 2090 11 31
8 0 38 0 0 38 0 20 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 false false 300 false true 2090 11 31
9 0 29 0 0 29 0 20 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 false false 300 false true 2090 11 31
10 0 63 0 0 63 0 20 0 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 false false 300 false true 2090 11 31
11 0 76 0 0 76 0 20 0 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 0 false false 100 false true 1941 5 22
12 0 90 0 0 100 0 20 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 false false 100 false true 1940 9 5
13 0 177 0 0 196 0 20 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 false false 100 false true 1940 10 14
14 0 63 0 0 63 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 false false 100 false true 1941 1 22
15 0 154 0 0 154 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 false false 300 false true 2090 11 31
16 0 70 0 0 70 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 false false 300 false true 2090 11 31
17 0 175 0 0 175 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 false false 300 false true 2090 11 31
18 0 130 0 0 130 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 false false 200 false true 2090 11 31
19 0 41 0 0 41 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 false false 200 false true 1941 4 13
20 0 255 0 0 255 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 false false 300 false true 2090 11 31
21 0 76 0 0 76 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 false false 300 false true 2090 11 31
22 0 29 0 0 29 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 false false 300 false true 2090 11 31
23 0 333 0 0 348 0 40 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 false false 200 false true 1939 8 1
24 0 89 0 0 89 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 false true 300 false true 2090 11 31
25 0 42 0 0 42 0 20 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 false false 300 false true 2090 11 31
26 0 50 5 0 50 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 false false 300 false false 2090 11 31
27 0 11 0 0 11 0 20 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 false false 300 false true 2090 11 31
28 0 27 0 0 27 0 20 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 false false 300 false true 2090 11 31
29 0 31 0 0 31 0 20 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 false false 300 false true 2090 11 31
30 0 9 0 0 9 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 false true 300 false false 2090 11 31
31 0 200 0 0 200 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 false false 200 false true 1940 7 6
32 0 35 0 0 35 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 false true 300 false true 2090 11 31
33 0 115 0 0 115 0 30 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 false true 300 false false 2090 11 31
34 0 200 0 0 200 0 0 2 2 2 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 2 1 0 3 2 false false 200 false true 2090 11 31
35 0 368 0 0 368 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 false true 300 false false 2090 11 31
36 0 150 5 0 150 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 false true 300 false false 2090 11 31

welk · Post by **welk** » Sat Jan 07, 2012 6:05 pm

In addition : I noticed that you could have made the adapted scenario yourself in 10 seconds with the CEAW editor

: I though that it caused crashes when using, but it is only if you do modifications on map. See here the explanations about process :

viewtopic.php?p=290957#290957

All players may use the CEAW 1.04 editor with GS 2.0, it takes only some secunds to work with. The unic condition is to NOT alter the map : you may just modify the country parameters and the oob (units on the map)

Hammer4000 · Post by **Hammer4000** » Sun Jan 08, 2012 9:10 pm

i'm digging in a bit more to see what i can do. For now there's been a few odd things that have happened. Such as if i have Italy join the Allies from being neutral they will instantly say Italy surrenders to UK, but Germany takes the land. Another thing after seeing your other topic about Great Powers being added(good stuff) I saw your step by step instructions for modding the sen.file with out crashes, using the editor i followed this, since i forgot to mention, i wanted to have all the available nations on the map to have 100 war effort too,

Anyway i used the editor just to change war effort, results were no effect. Even after using your instructions. But with the Italy problem i think i'm gonna call this one. Honestly i could have this same set up you made for me, for the original map version. Anyhow diggin back in for a little more while

welk · Post by **welk** » Sun Jan 08, 2012 9:35 pm

Surrender of Italy is a normal effect

, if you have not modified the general.txt file as described in my post (if 99 italian cities are needed for italian surrender = italian surredender becomes impossible = Italy stay in war as allied). If you do not this modification : at the time Axis does DOW to Italy, Italy become Allies, all cities of Italy are now allied = the logiciel uses data of general.txt file = Italy surrenders immediatly and Italien territory goes to "parent nation" = Germany. The absolute condition to use Italy as Allied is to modify in the "general.txt" file the number of italian cities needed for italian surrender.

Concerning the pb of editor : I made a verification, setting war effort of all great powers at level 30 with the editor, and the correct effect occurs without pb in my game (I suppose it is the same for all other powers, but this parameters appears in interface of game only for great powers).

Be sure you have saved the scenario in editor with the "save" button, and that you have pasted the modified scenario in the correct GS folder. Perhaps your "no effect" pb comes from this.

In addition : I noticed this night that it was possible to do some minor modifications on the map with the editor without crash. I am not sure for 100% but it seems that it is possible to modify the owner of a territories (only in scenario, not in map file) without crash during the game. To be more tested...