Britcon

[david53]

Hi There

I know that FOG R is an open event but, I was thinking because it will without doubt be up on numbers owing to its free to enter and accomodation, could'nt it be looked at to have a couple of themes not narrow but maybe one late and one early period type armies.

Me I think FOG R works better if its kept to a certain difference in date and place, you could do it and if theres not numbers just combine them again it would'nt harm anyone.

Dave

[timmy1]

While I like themed events and feel they work better for FoGR especially, I favour just one comp so that we can emerge in the first year with a FoGR National Champion.

[david53]

While I like themed events and feel they work better for FoGR especially, I favour just one comp so that we can emerge in the first year with a FoGR National Champion.

Why would that matter winning Britcon will not make a National Champion it will just make a winner of Britcon, never heard this mentioned in the ancient part of FOG with regard to Britcon.

IMO FOG R works and gives a better feel if you have some sense of historical match up, or you may just end up fighting either all Tartar armies, Turks or 30YW armies with a very late army. Having a bit of historical match or a wide theme period will I think get more new players now that there are a lot of army list books out. As you know the books cover from late Italian wars 1500 something to 1699 not a big time gap but a massive one in quipment and fighting styles.

[MARVIN_THE_ARVN]

Its not free entry to everyone

I was thinking about going but then again.....

Also, ive not played any games against early armies so I dont know if their will be a problem, I say throw everyone in the same pot and dock those with 'good' (Tourney designed armies) armies 33% of their victory points

Do you get to give people aditional points in britcon based on army make up etc?

[daveallen]

Britcon will not make a National Champion

Errr, it will - Britcon hosts what used to be called the UK National Wargames Championship.

[daveallen]

I would prefer a single open tournament until player numbers pick up quite substantially - say 20+.

I'm not convinced that there is such a large difference between early and late or between east and west that the former are not viable in open competition.

[david53]

I would prefer a single open tournament until player numbers pick up quite substantially - say 20+.

I'm not convinced that there is such a large difference between early and late or between east and west that the former are not viable in open competition.

And steppe, wou'nt make any difference to pike and musket BG's that can't turn and protect their open flanks.

Of course it will make a difference, foot in FOG R are less able to cover there flanks which in a open table will be wide open to getting picked on by a large numbers of either carbine armed LH/Cavalry, or bow armed LH/Cavalry.

In a open event those massed LH/Cavalry armies will, largely win terrain selection and that will be a much bigger problum than in FOG AM due to the lack of turn and move by the infantry.

Steppe is a problum all will agree in FOG AM, it is no different in FOG R IMO, maybe more so as I've stated due to the lack of infantry turn and move.

It will be intesting to see how many steppe type armies appear at Britcon.

Dave

[kevinj]

Dave (A) is correct, unless there is a much higher level of interest it is likely to be practical to have multiple themed FogR events at a single tournament. I also agree that the imbalance that we remember from earlier rules is less apparent, the different armies have their pros and cons.

As for the Steppe armies, I suspect that, providing people take balanced armies, they will spend more time running away from Pistol armed Horse than trying to get onto the flanks of foot. The game is deliberately biased in favour of gunpowder technology based armies and these are likely to predominate until somebody comes up with a clever alternative.