point value of mounted swordsmen?

[Antipater]

In the point value chart, the value of a mounted soldier who is melee pistol equipped is 2 points, and if a mounted swordsmen in melee is also 2 points. However I feel this is wrong. Usually if the troop type has an advantage it costs more than another equal troop or if there is a disadvantage they cost less. For example Musketeers who are part of a Pike and Shot unit (and thus capable of being protected in open ground by a Pike element) cost 1 point more per stand than a unit of entirely shot (except for commanded shot). In the case of ECW Royalist Horse for example you can be Impact Pistol/Melee Pistol or Impact Pistol/Swordsmen The point values are equal. However a swordsman in melee gets no POA against spearmen (like the naked Irishmen he may fight), while the Melee Pistol does get a POA, and he gets no POA in a cavalry melee unless in impact he caused his opponent to become disrupted.

This last is important since with two opponents impacting with Pistols, would you rather have a POA each round until you become disrupted, or no POA unless you can disrupt the other guy. I think I'd rather have the POA from the get go.

So I think mounted melee swordsmen should be one point less, IMHO.

[deadtorius]

I believe that the mounted pistol will lose its POA if they are not steady VS sword so the pistol will get a POA for melee if they are steady but if they drop cohesion the sword gets the advantage. I would guess that is where the 2 points comes in, if you can knock his cohesion down his 2 points for pistol is wasted as he gets no POA and even if the sword gets disordered the pistol will still lose their POA if are not steady.

I will be finding out soon how mounted swords work as we are doing the first year of the ECW and my only cav choice is impact pistol and melee sword.

[Blathergut]

*Is warming up his carbines!*

[Scrumpy]

I have used unarmoured French IH & sw v armoured pistols and found if you don't win the impact you can be - - bloody quickly.

[deadtorius]

That is where the mounted VS mounted break off would come in handy I guess.
I still think that the mounted swords stand a chance at getting better POA's than the mounted pistol do, but I will be able to form my own opinions on that in a few weeks time..... I hope..... Blatherguts roomy is a party animal, so gaming has to be delayed for seasonal festivities

[rbodleyscott]

Of course, if the Swordsmen ones fight the Melee Pistol ones in terrain, they are guaranteed to get the POA advantage in melee, and the Pistols are guaranteed to lose theirs.

[Blathergut]

SSsshhhhhhhhhhhhh!!! Don't give him any ideas!!!!!