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devilforrest · Post by **devilforrest** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 12:26 am

Still waiting on books ...

Are there any skirmishes available to the Later 80 Years Wars Dutch?

david53 · Post by **david53** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 5:58 am

devilforrest wrote:Still waiting on books ...

Are there any skirmishes available to the Later 80 Years Wars Dutch?

No none, they do get two bases of dragoons

Gbrios · Post by **Gbrios** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:36 am

I thought the most similar to a skirmish troop that you could see in later 80YW was a fight in "caponeras" (that is how Spanish call tunnels scratched under trench. like in Breda or Bergen-op-zoom sieges).

Perhaps some enfant perdue detachment, but I think that's all.

Scrumpy · Post by **Scrumpy** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:55 am

They also get 0-2 warships to boot. One of the few armies that gets naval units.

deadtorius · Post by **deadtorius** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:24 pm

Uh so are you supposed to actually have some kind of ship model or do you just mark on the table edge "the boats are here" I had been considering re-doing Dutch, which was my 20mm DBR army originally. I think I can re use their field fortifications in the larger 28mm scale.

nikgaukroger · Post by **nikgaukroger** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:25 pm

deadtorius wrote:Uh so are you supposed to actually have some kind of ship model

Yup

david53 · Post by **david53** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:40 pm

nikgaukroger wrote:
deadtorius wrote:Uh so are you supposed to actually have some kind of ship model
Yup

I do think this is good that is until i get shot at by the boats

devilforrest · Post by **devilforrest** » Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:06 am

Can the Dutch call on any allies?

Can they use brigade guns?

david53 · Post by **david53** » Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:21 am

devilforrest wrote:Can the Dutch call on any allies?

Can they use brigade guns?

Yes to the first English French Swedish

No to the second

Scrumpy · Post by **Scrumpy** » Mon Sep 20, 2010 8:48 am

As a special form of protection they also get their Dutch caps too.

rbodleyscott · Post by **rbodleyscott** » Mon Sep 20, 2010 9:11 am

The lack of regimental guns in a list isn't a huge disadvantage IMO. I am going off the idea of using them routinely even when they are permitted.

Although they (slightly) increase a BG's firepower, and impact conbat, they don't increase its overall resilience at all.

6 BGs of Pike/Shot without Regimental Guns costs slightly less than 5 BGs with Regimental Guns, and may be as or more effective, depending on the circumstances.

timmy1 · Post by **timmy1** » Tue Sep 21, 2010 7:34 pm

Richard, the evidence I have seen has been otherwise but then I have not won with them in 8 games... :(

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