amazon release? hotseat version? ds / ps1 ?

bones65 · Post by **bones65** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 2:07 am

1. are you not going to release this on amazon?!! you should!.. hey i put a plug for this game on the 'ruse' (p.c.) review (on amazon)and then looked, and it (B.A.) wasn't there!! it says they will let folks know when it becomes available.... 2. is there a hotseat version coming out? i'm sure i read somewhere you were thinking of it!... 3. after playing the multiplayer for the first time (and winning!) (just!) i think the balance is spot on!.. i've gotta say it's the best rts strategy EVER!! .. 4. is there a point system scenario on m.p. that both sides could completely pick their sides from scratch and play on a map of their choice,? as this was what i was hoping for.. it would be so cool. .. i was gutted when i chose a scenario, and it made me allies by default, and then gave me a few shoddy shermans to sneak around with, and about 8 halftracks with troops... (race for the town)..i then became even more despondent when on turn 1 it scrolls through the other players 4 panthers (yes 4!!) ' marders ,stugs , an equal amount of halftracks and troops, and a kingtiger!!! etc... thank goodness for my calliope,

it would've been nice to choose which way to be whopped .. i'm still in shock that i wasn't!...i know you can script games, but i still type with 1 finger (which is aching now!) so i don't think i'm the scriptwriting type (no pun!) there will be others like me (probably) 5. did the ds and ps1 versions fall through, or are they gonna come out eventually..........? 6. awesome game ...7. awesome game!

LOGAN5 · Post by **LOGAN5** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 3:42 am

ruse had a good idea, only problem with that game is the building.. i mean building airbases and factories in italy to build tanks???? I know its an RTS but they should have skipped the building part just give you a bunch of units and slug it out, if this game is supposedly 1944+ we don't need to be starting from scratch ,armies should be ready to go. Once you play the demo you will not want to buy the game.. BA is a lot better

bones65 · Post by **bones65** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:57 am

No you got me wrong! I was plugging Battlefield Academy on the Amazon page where they are selling Ruse lol!!! (I'm not plugging RUSE here...)

I too absolutely agree that Battlefield Academy is a much better game. (But RUSE is still fun!)

The comments made above are about Battlefield Academy, not RUSE.

This (BA) is the best game ever!

MrsWargamer · Post by **MrsWargamer** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 12:13 pm

RTS? god I hope not. That is the LAST thing I want to ever see happen to a great game.

RTS is a scourge if it is anything. I recommend Company of Heroes if RTS is that important to a player.

There is a hot seat dodge out there, but it is currently just that, a dodge, it's not a real option to my knowledge. Sure wouldn't mind being able to kick my buddy's but when I visit him though.

I am currently trying to badger him into just buying his own copy and we can play against each other in the usual way even if we are in the same room.

I like buying from Amazon, but I recognize that likely means little profit, and thus, I am ok if the answer is 'no we can't go that route'.

Multiplayer really can't do point buy any better than any other game. In Steel Panthers it leads to horribly unbalanced unplayable games that only end up requiring massive amounts of 'houserules'. It happens in board games as well. I never play DYO games for this reason.
Multi player works because players are playing battles someone has had to test a lot first to ensure they are playable. It is where a lot of our tweaks have come from. A need to alter pre existing games, to restore balance issues.

This is why asking for a random generator is mostly a waste of time. It would only deliver random unplayable games.

All I want is for Slitherine to take names of people willing to doodle up new units so they can get us a nice worth purchase expansion that prevents me from needing to do the editor work myself (I'm lazy I admit it hehe).

bones65 · Post by **bones65** » Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:15 pm

[quote]'This is why asking for a random generator is mostly a waste of time It would only deliver random unplayable games'[/url]............ squad leader (before it did all the gamettes,and then went on to asl) managed on paper to do an excellent randomiser! avalon hill then managed to keep all of the series' fans hooked on waiting for that randomiser and point system to be initiated in the subsequent add ons! they then altered the majority of rules (the true scourge!) on each expansion pack, to the point that we'd be looking up and arguing about the rules (..."it's in there somewhere!") more than playing the game.

.. that's what's cool about BBC BA, all the remembering is done for you. all that was needed was the updated american point system, but no,..they then re wrote the whole lot and left out the randomiser! i cant remember if they still went ahead with the points,.. (it's in my loft lol! with my 'loft girls') see michael macantyre's 'MAN drawer' (soo funny!) anyone who chooses units in multiplayer would surely have enough sense to make it work! the rules are already there, so house rules are not necessary..a truck CAN take a vp because it CAN! if an angry truck driver from the army parked at the end of your street (possibly armed with a pistol) he can have it!! (and all the bills with it! lol!!) if a stewart shoots a kingtiger and it is destroyed (maybe the crew panicked and baled out ...perhaps they didn't see it and thought the shot was from a 17 pounder!) then it happened! all that is needed is random victory points and the player who holds onto the most on the final turn wins...and/or ... who destroys the most points.. both enter from opposite roads (or sides of the map).. if i was computer literate i would love to take on this challenge, but i'm afraid i haven't a clue!! (..i can't even use the Quote system properly lol!!) i could make it work on paper though!! PLEASE think about it.

and what about ds? !![/list]

MrsWargamer · Post by **MrsWargamer** » Fri Sep 24, 2010 2:01 pm

Please master using paragraphs

For the purpose of clarifying, I own ASL (all of it more or less) and played all the way from back when it was just Squad Leader.
The game has come a looooong way.

But even in it's current brutally accurate state, it is still in no way capable of playing DYO although it doesn't stop people from claiming otherwise.

I demonstrated this once to a friend. We played a DYO game. I was Russian he German. He bought a really nice really good looking force of predictable SS and super tanks. He had very few counters from his points though.
Me, I bought ALL the sludge units. Conscripts all of them, second line, all of them. No armour no neat things. No engineers etc.

I had massive sums of squads with them all possessing something of a mathematical edge. Because 25 losers with lame firepower wins against 1 SS squad 100% of the time. And he agreed, yes let's play a scenario that was well thought out to be well balanced and has seen the light of play testing.

I have done the exact same thing with Steel Panthers. So it is not just a fluke of a specific board game.

BBC BA as a random option, would have zero worth to me.

bones65 · Post by **bones65** » Sat Oct 09, 2010 1:41 pm

hence the need to have a good mix of units!! a choose wisely or lose ethos... anyhow, in the above case that's just about how the russians won, in more than a few cases, overwhelming manpower... i'm not being argumentative by the way, if YOU didn,t want a DYO then you don't have to use it, but there are definately those who do,me for one,my buddie who also has the game for another.. it would just be an extra feature which may appeal to many, it is do able.. i've played years of cross of iron(admittedly years ago) of DYO and it worked very well. ok not EVERY game, but was so much fun ..and those who i played against thought it was fun too..we also agreed that crescendo of doom, although more accurate, was less fun.. never forget the fun element, because if you do then you're wasting your time doing something you're not enjoying!..(never quite understood why 'Frosties' were fun though!)... the hotseat version i was thinking would make for good advertising for those who don't have the game ., but who could be coerced into one, and then may just want it themselves! it was only an idea. As for the quote mastering technique, how about a couple o paragraphs tutorial, for idiots like me( who don't normally go on forums)

lol!