Crazyg vs Massina(No Massina please)

Crazygunner1 · Post by **Crazygunner1** » Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:56 am

Hi and welcome to my AAr against Massina

I am really looking forward to this. This is among the first times i have played against more experienced players. I have two unfinished games against Borger and Max so hopefully this will be to the bitter end. Hope you all will enjoy the reading....

Overall strategy for allies is as usual, i will adapt to pretty much whatever Massian trows at me. Brittish spend PP on AIR focus fighter, then we will probably go for ship(antisub focus) and general(industry focus). Russians will probably go for AIR first and then industry, armour, infantry. Focus on both infantry and tank will be to cause as much damage as possible to the germans, that way his manpower will deplete. I think Massina is to smart of a player to make any kinds of tactical mistakes, witch means that i have to wear him down in oil and manpower.....
I haven´t decide what to go for with the US, it all depends on Massina, will state that later.....

We come in the second turn for allies. Massina did a very good opening in Polen, it was clear that Polen would fall during the next turn so i counterattacked as much as possible and manage to cut of supply to one of his tanks but in vain. Polen fell in the second turn. Before polen fell commander and a lot of troops were railed over to the west front. Looked like Blitzkrieg was about to hit Belgium.

Right was i....German forces entered Belgium with INF and MECH corps supported with parts of Luftwaffe, no tanks so far. Halfway through my turn i decided to move forward and fill in the gaps, try and make the germans bogg down in the forest and develop into a stalemate of somekind. To be honest i don´t really have a good tactic against early Blitzkrieg. We will see if this works....i am not to enthusiastic though....

For now i have decided not to interfere with the british army. But aggressive player as i am, i will probably change my mind quite soon....ha ha ha

I am gathering some brittish GAR and the usual french from the MED.

Crazygunner1 · Post by **Crazygunner1** » Fri Sep 10, 2010 11:06 am

Most of my units has entrenched lvl 1 or in some cases lvl 2. I also decided to involve fighters, seems a good idea. Still no sign of INF along the Maginot line, maybe he don´t want to exploit that gap. I think Massina can´t get very far next turn, some of his front INF is damaged and the Tanks and Mech are in the rear. I am happy with getting a few extra PPs for Belgium.....

Brittish troops getting ready for transport

I have emtied this reagion as much as possible, do not think that anything special will happen here throughout the game....

Crazygunner1 · Post by **Crazygunner1** » Fri Sep 10, 2010 1:51 pm

Anyone got some information about Massina, what type of player he is and what he is likely to do? I recall he had an AAr some time ago but that is way back.

Any information would be helpfull

Crazyg

Crazygunner1 · Post by **Crazygunner1** » Fri Sep 10, 2010 2:54 pm

Nothin bought this turn, saving PPs in France to se what i will go for. England will go for research now.

It is a little dangerous to have french tank so close to the front, but it has entrench lvl 2 and ok org, so it shouldn´t be destroyed. Massina knows that i am aggressive so he fears what i might do with the tank and therefore scares him a bit.

I don´t see that many Germans yet, Massina is up to something, he might go for Holland, he probably knows that i won´t be able to interfere and also wise of him to widen the front.

gchristie · Post by **gchristie** » Fri Sep 10, 2010 6:40 pm

Crazygunner1 wrote:Anyone got some information about Massina, what type of player he is and what he is likely to do? I recall he had an AAr some time ago but that is way back.

Any information would be helpfull

Crazyg

Never played him, but according to Ronnie "he is a machine" in terms of cranking out PBEM results.

And here is a look at how he tends to develop his attack upon Russia.

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But you probably have seen these already.

schwerpunkt · Post by **schwerpunkt** » Fri Sep 10, 2010 10:24 pm

Crazygunner1 wrote:Anyone got some information about Massina, what type of player he is and what he is likely to do? I recall he had an AAr some time ago but that is way back.

Any information would be helpfull

Crazyg

In the game I played against him as the allies and which I won an Ultimate Victory, Massinia was a good player offensively but did leave opportunities for counter-attack. Also, he severely under-estimated the power of my russian TACs and MECHs which meant he tried to stand against my winter offensive too long and lost so many units that a 42/43 winter offensive was able to become a continual offensive that ended in the fall of Hamburg to the russians in Apr 44..... My secret as the russians was to pull most of my forces back to the Don river line but to deploy delaying units ( mainly GARs) at critical points to slow his advance. I really suggest that you review his AARs;
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I really believe that the key to defeating him is to minimise your losses as best as possible whilst maintaining a counter-offensive threat and not concede ground too easily (there's a trick to this obviously

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richardsd · Post by **richardsd** » Sat Sep 11, 2010 1:57 am

I played him very early on in my GS life. As the Germans he went for Spain and a quite early Barbarossa (leaving Greece).

He got a little carried away with his success, aided by my to early counter attack in the west (I learn't the hard way why you need at least Air parity!).

He got a good victory although I could have taken Berlin if I had properly understood when the game ended - wouldn't have taken Italy though.

cheers

Crazygunner1 · Post by **Crazygunner1** » Sat Sep 11, 2010 2:40 am

Thanks for all your input.....think i have an idea on how to deal with him....

Crazygunner1 · Post by **Crazygunner1** » Mon Sep 13, 2010 3:20 pm

He didn´t choose to advance in the hex below Brussels, probably wise. there are still a couple more GAR still arriving from the MED

KingHunter3059 · Post by **KingHunter3059** » Mon Sep 13, 2010 6:13 pm

Crazygunner1 wrote:Anyone got some information about Massina, what type of player he is and what he is likely to do? I recall he had an AAr some time ago but that is way back.

Any information would be helpfull

Crazyg

LoL! You and Him are Peas in a POD! Your styles are similar - This should be an interesting game! Good Luck!

Jay

Crazygunner1 · Post by **Crazygunner1** » Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:46 pm

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Crazygunner1 · Post by **Crazygunner1** » Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:01 pm

Sub in the north corner attacked german BB knocked down one step, fall of france the sub is useless anyway. I see a window of opportunity here to keep the Germans busy for a while. I have 2 brittish Mech and one INF that i can move over to France and help defend.(here i go again!!!!) I would put one Mech just south of were the GAR was destroyed and the other in the city. That way i can get good counterattacks on anyone who tries to cross the river. It seems that this is the path he will strike....This i need atleast one more turn of mud.....let´s see what happens

Attacked sub with bomber and moved in to protect the convoy, ran into the second sub. Nice, they have to return to port soon and make repairs. Otherwise i will destroy them....

Crazygunner1 · Post by **Crazygunner1** » Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:29 am

Ofcourse by doing this, i leave England open to Sealion, that is a risk i am willing to take. First of all the war is not lost if England is lost, second it is always an endever to pursue Sealion for Axis no matter how weak the Britts are. Third it is not in German interest to take England, that would only gain extra PPs, not oil. Oil is what Germany really needs. Fourth, if i can hold out to august or even september it is way to late for Sealion anyway, witch means the delay is worth it.

Good weather and the Luftwaffe takes off, causing damage on allied forces. I am ready for counterattack, just need an opportunity that is worth.

Crazygunner1 · Post by **Crazygunner1** » Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:39 pm

In this counterattack i wanted to engage Luftwaffe fighters, so i decided to move in with my CV into port of Antwerp to get extra 2 srvival and then attack german INF to make Luftwaffe fighter intercept. I managed to knock down 3 steps and losing only 1 step myself. Excellent results!!! I realize this puts my CV in a dangerous position, but he probably have to choose to continue his offensive in France or redirect his bombers to attack Antwerp and try take the town to destroy my CV in port. If he does the later, i will have gained some extra time, at expensive cost though.

The assault on german mech was succesful and one less to worrie about in the balkans and russian front.

Elsewhere in the atlantic, unescorted brittish INF ran into a lurking sub.....guess it will be destroyed next turn.

Unfortunately i forgot to print screen after my turn was done. So i only have before shot....sorry about that.

Crazygunner1 · Post by **Crazygunner1** » Thu Sep 16, 2010 9:40 am

France will hold 2-3 turns more i quess, my guess is beginning of June the campagin is over. Massina is probably itchy when he sees that i have overcommited brittish troops in France to do Seealion. I would really like if he did that, but i know he can´t without sacraficing a lot. His subs is in no shape to participate in any operations, 2 of them are down below 5, i think the third one is around 2 steps. They are located far off the french coast and need to resupply, that will take atleast 3 turns after the fall of France. It also seems that Massina has spent PPs on science and Luftwaffe, nothing else, witch means no extra Kriegsmarine. Nonetheless i will keep a PP arsenal just in case, but i do think he might go for something like norway or even spain. He has still got the low countries to take and Denmark. All this before Barbarossa. Should be exciting to see what he does, for my sake i really hope he engages in Sealion. If he does i win this game....

Crazygunner1 · Post by **Crazygunner1** » Thu Sep 16, 2010 11:36 pm

I still earn 19PPs for France, witch is quite good in this stage, but will play a small effect now. All out attacks by the French will soon begin as it is evident that Paris will fall.

Crazygunner1 · Post by **Crazygunner1** » Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:06 am

I am impressed with the extent of his allout attacks, however he did leave a step 5 INF, i plan to attack it, cuase i have nothing else to do. Paris will fall next turn anyway and the remaining brittish forces will be caught anyway.

I relized now, that i could have put my RAF in french towns before France is falling then fly em out. Forgot that....However the battle of France did cost me dearly, brittain lost 2 Mech, 2 INF and atleast 8 GAR in total. I managed to destroy 1 german Mech and 1 INF. Against an early Blitz i would say end of June is ok. I would have prefered to hold out a bit longer, but Massinas very well tought attacks and use of forces shorten the campaign with atleast 2 turns. If i faced the same option i would do the same way, cause i think that Massina won´t try a Sealion, nonetheless i bought 3 britt INF to support in case of attack. To be honest i think attack on Spain is more likely, then i can maybe intervene with britt corps.

Is it good to keep the CV in port in London, it will protect against airattacks and get extra 2 survivability? But it is easily trapped if 2 subs come to close up the 2 squares.

Crazygunner1 · Post by **Crazygunner1** » Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:20 am

As suspected France fell. Landed a Britt GAR in Brest to make trouble. Germans bombed London, think that is another sign that Sealion will not take place, or he might be testing the response of RAF. Saving up PPs now to resupply fighters, CV and prepare England for an intervene....If all stays quite here i will dispatch the CV together with BBs to the Med. I might do an effective resistance against campaigns in the Balkans and Africa.