Game freezes - AI can't handle it? :-(

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baboon81uk
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Game freezes - AI can't handle it? :-(

Post by baboon81uk »

It's August 1940 and i've managed to surround two german subs with various allied navy units off the coast of France. When I end my turn the AI does a few things on the mainland (yes it hasn't taken France yet) and then i'm guessing it doesn't know what to do so it sits there with the egg timer. Tried reloading the save game, no difference. Tried loading the autosave, it decided to declare war on Russia but still hangs. HELP!

(p.s. it's still trying to take Yugoslavia and Denmark, oh and Switzerland)
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Post by gchristie »

What version are you using? One of the recent Grand Strategy mod patches had Switzerland allying with Germany in order to stop the Axis AI from invading Switzerland.

That being said, the GS mod, if that is what you are using, was designed for PBEM and the AI is possibly worse as Axis than the vanilla version. If you want to play the GS mod as allies then I'd suggest finding yourself a human opponent. The game isn't much fun against the axis AI from my experience.

i realize that this doesn't address your "hang" problem, which I've never experienced. Have you tried reinstalling the game to see if that helps?

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baboon81uk
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Post by baboon81uk »

Sorry yes it is CEAW 1.12 Grand Strategy 1.02 and I haven't updated it recently. Thanks, that's fair enough. I might crack out an AI game on the original to get my fix ;-)
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Post by Blumert »

Hmm -
I had the same problem several times - end 40s beginning 41 - me as Allies - KI as Axis - KI was thinking annd thinking ... - half n hour - ending this was only posible, by Strg-Alt-Del - So I renew all my drivers - deinstall the whole game - defrag my HD - install it new - install upgrade 1.12, because it was recommended for Grand Stragedy 1.06 - and try fearfully a new game - which ends autumn 40 with the same result.
To answer only to play it with human beings sounds strange and is insufficiient. This game is really fun - if it works - But clicking on support and landing in a forum with no answer for my problem is not proffessional - how to send my problem to one of the programmers? I play the game on night for relaxing and can´t call my friends late night.
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Post by Peter Stauffenberg »

GS is a mod for CeaW intended for PBEM play only. It's not balanced for AI play since very few people play against the AI and the AI can't give a proper challenge anyway. Since GS is so different from the vanilla game it actually requires a lot of new AI code so the AI can take advantage of that. We've decided not to support that since it would require a lot of work and few people would use it anyway.

The vanilla CeaW is supposed to support AI play so if you experience problems with CeaW v1.12 then you can address those in the support forum. GS is NOT supported for AI play and it's also a FREE enhancement so you can't expect to receive support for something it's not designed for. CeaW is the product you've paid for and can expect support from Slitherine. GS is a FREE mod made by CeaW fans. You use it as is and most PBEM players seem to enjoy it.

I've managed to play quite a few turns in GS against the AI, but hang situations usually happens when the AI tries to do something regarding the new code and it doesn't know how to interpret the result. So to get rid of all such situations you need to test a lot of games and plug the holes you find by adding code where the game hangs.

What's the challenge in playing against the AI? I gave up on the AI a long time ago when the Axis AI struggled hard to capture Paris. They banged against my defensive line in France and it was only after Italy joined and they attacked from the north and south at the same time I finally lost France (October / November 1940). The AI can't prevent being surrounded etc. So against the AI I can win an ultimate victory EVERY time. What's the fun in that?

GS is simply too complicated to make a decent AI.

To Blumert: Play the vanilla CeaW if you only play against the AI. Then you can play till the end and get support for AI issues.
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Post by rkr1958 »

baboon81uk wrote:Sorry yes it is CEAW 1.12 Grand Strategy 1.02 and I haven't updated it recently. Thanks, that's fair enough. I might crack out an AI game on the original to get my fix ;-)
Blumert wrote:Hmm -
I had the same problem several times - end 40s beginning 41 - me as Allies - KI as Axis - KI was thinking annd thinking ... - half n hour - ending this was only posible, by Strg-Alt-Del - So I renew all my drivers - deinstall the whole game - defrag my HD - install it new - install upgrade 1.12, because it was recommended for Grand Stragedy 1.06 - and try fearfully a new game - which ends autumn 40 with the same result.
To answer only to play it with human beings sounds strange and is insufficiient. This game is really fun - if it works - But clicking on support and landing in a forum with no answer for my problem is not proffessional - how to send my problem to one of the programmers? I play the game on night for relaxing and can´t call my friends late night.
I successfully played a game against the AI and captured it in an ARR (see viewtopic.php?p=153981#153981 ) over this past summer without issue. If you want to play GS against the AI I recommend that you update to GS v1.07.
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