rough guide as to army size etc

chubooga · Post by **chubooga** » Sun Jun 20, 2010 8:24 pm

Im looking to paint an ECW collection up ready for when the rules are available so we can get playing it ASAP.

Any guide as to the number of troops or units of the required types would be great....

Also, a guide as to army composition for something in tricornes..... marlborough maybe?

Apologies if this isnt allowed, Im not trying to tease inside info, just want to get started painting so me and my gaming buds can play as soon as the rules/lists hit the doorstep!

cheers

jon

timmy1 · Post by **timmy1** » Sun Jun 20, 2010 9:06 pm

Not sure if the rules cover much in tricornes. 1699/1700 is when I would expect the end date to be.

Have you played DBM or DBR before? In FoG:AM an army of 800 seems to take about 450 DBM points. I suspect that FOG:R will be similar - 450 AP of DBR.

chubooga · Post by **chubooga** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 5:47 pm

cheers mate

thought the wss slipped into this period?

So if I got teh following:

For ECW
4 generals
8 units of foot (4 shot 2 pike)
4 units of cav
1 unit of cuirassier
4 cannon
8 bases of dragoons

then for the later period:
4 generals
8 units of foot of 6 bases of musket
6 units of cav
4 cannon

would this be enough to play games with as soon as the rules came out?

cheers
jon

timmy1 · Post by **timmy1** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 6:17 pm

When you say unit do you mean bases (for example '4 units of cav' means 12 figures) or do you mean a unit is (say) 4 bases each of 3? If the latter you should be good to but I think you would need a few Pike (say 1 base per unit) as even the English were still using Pike in the WSS (I think the French had stopped by then). If the former it will be a bit small.

SirGarnet · Post by **SirGarnet** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 6:39 pm

Somewhere in the forum posts below rbodleyscott gave a sample ECW army list you may want to have a look at. As timmy1 mentioned, that is in terms of bases (which are also explained somewhere in this forum).

chubooga · Post by **chubooga** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 6:51 pm

cheers gents.......

I meant units of cav to be 4 bases each of 3 figures...... sorry, my post wasnt clear.

Im itching to order this stuff and get it painted, never been this enthused my wargaming for years!

really hope the rules do WSS armies........... please confirm they do!

cheers

jon

nikgaukroger · Post by **nikgaukroger** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 7:31 pm

chubooga wrote:
really hope the rules do WSS armies........... please confirm they do!

cheers

jon

I'd have to lie to do that, I'm afraid

1698 end date - it was decided that WSS would be stretching things too far (it was nearly capped at the end of the TYW).

chubooga · Post by **chubooga** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:49 pm

me sad

is there anything similar in the rules then?

or it could be ECW and Wars of Religion only for me.............. surely not!

jon

timmy1 · Post by **timmy1** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:53 pm

the War of the League of Augsberg armies will not look very different to WSS (indeed in many cases they will be identical) and the generals were often the same (other than William III who died before he could fight the WSS which he organised).

chubooga · Post by **chubooga** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:46 am

Super!

I will begin research...............though I am a wargamer first and an historian a long way second.

cheers gents....

Big order to essex getting penned!

jon

rbodleyscott · Post by **rbodleyscott** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:45 am

chubooga wrote:Super!

I will begin research...............though I am a wargamer first and an historian a long way second.

cheers gents....

Big order to essex getting penned!

Just so you know, most infantry BGs in WoTLoA armies have 1 base of pikes and 5 bases of musketeers. There are also some BGs that are all musketeers with bayonet.

chubooga · Post by **chubooga** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:02 pm

cheers rbs

though I trawled through past posts and found someone who kindly had two wotloa armies in a batrep.... Ive used his army lists as a basis for my order.....

got some serious painting to do when these bad boys arrive!

jon