The Great Khans camp

lonehorseman · Post by **lonehorseman** » Sat May 08, 2010 12:13 pm

Hey there. Anyone have any sources for me from which I could build an accurate Mongol Camp? I am currently planning on using 4 or so of Baueda's Mongol yurts with a odd horse archer or so as camp guards. Any other suggestions?

bertalucci · Post by **bertalucci** » Sun May 09, 2010 5:56 am

Baueda's the best I've come across - but pricey
I'd expect to buy half an army for what it'll cost you for the camp!

lonehorseman · Post by **lonehorseman** » Sun May 09, 2010 9:46 am

not really for me, living in South Africa EVERYTHING gets expensive with shipping. It ends ip costing me the same per tent as I pay for a pack of miniatures. They do look really awesome though thanks for pointing them out to me, any idea on how to model it? yurts and what else? I really don't just want a tent camp I like to make little diorama out of them, anybody have any descriptions of a camp or even pictures?

DavidT · Post by **DavidT** » Sun May 09, 2010 10:06 am

There are a number of illustrations of Mongol camps in the various Osprey books on the Mongols.
As well as the yurts, plate F in 'The Mongols' shows a camp fire with a large cooking pot over it, surrounded on one side by 5-6 feet high screens, possibly acting as a wind break. It also shows a group of unsaddled ponies.
The Campaign Book 'Kalka River' shows the scene where the Mongols placed a wooden platform on top of their Russian captives and proceeded to celebrate their victory by eating a meal on top of the platform while crushing their captives to death.
The latter would make an interesting, if somewhat gruesome, diorama.

Saurocet · Post by **Saurocet** » Mon May 10, 2010 1:29 am

Several movies have been made about Genghis Khan. One of my favorites is Genghis Khan: To the Ends of the Earth and Sea. The movie starts with Temujin's birth and ends when he starts the invasion of China. In it, Temujin goes from very poor to very rich of course. It's cool to watch how his personal yurt changes through the movie. The "painting scheme" of the outside of the yurt changes and evolves through the movie.

You could probably get a lot of good ideas from the movie. I bought my copy from Belle and Blade (www.warshows.com).

BlackPrince · Post by **BlackPrince** » Mon May 10, 2010 5:23 am

I buy my Baueda tents through Magister Militum in the UK. Baueda charge 15 Euro postage to Oz where as Magister Militum charge a minimum of 5 pounds.

expendablecinc · Post by **expendablecinc** » Mon May 10, 2010 5:27 am

BlackPrince wrote:I buy my Baueda tents through Magister Militum in the UK. Baueda charge 15 Euro postage to Oz where as Magister Militum charge a minimum of 5 pounds.

In Australia try a local supplier that can get them in bulk and distribute the international postage cost over many transactions eg Olympian Games. I think that in Aust its about $10 AUS for a single delivery to anywhere in aust so still advisable to combine with multiple purchases.

lonehorseman · Post by **lonehorseman** » Mon May 10, 2010 11:46 am

"The Campaign Book 'Kalka River' shows the scene where the Mongols placed a wooden platform on top of their Russian captives and proceeded to celebrate their victory by eating a meal on top of the platform while crushing their captives to death.
The latter would make an interesting, if somewhat gruesome, diorama."

Anyone got any actual images of that?

Jilu · Post by **Jilu** » Mon May 10, 2010 8:49 pm

why tents ?

a few horses grasing a few horse holders and a guard or two should do, ad a tree or two.

expendablecinc · Post by **expendablecinc** » Tue May 11, 2010 4:51 am

Jilu wrote:why tents ?

a few horses grasing a few horse holders and a guard or two should do, ad a tree or two.

You cant have a mongol camp without a yurt.

Thats like having a feudal spanish camp without a heretic burning post.

lonehorseman · Post by **lonehorseman** » Tue May 11, 2010 9:07 pm

I'm going to go with the platform Idea

, anybody have links to a description of it...I can just see a whole lot of green stuff being used to make hands and arms stretched out underneath the platform

tadamson · Post by **tadamson** » Wed May 12, 2010 9:14 am

lonehorseman wrote:I'm going to go with the platform Idea , anybody have links to a description of it...I can just see a whole lot of green stuff being used to make hands and arms stretched out underneath the platform

It was a closed box. The rulers were suffocated, as spilling their blood on the ground would be an insult to their status.

lonehorseman · Post by **lonehorseman** » Sun May 16, 2010 8:54 pm

In the end I made a camp based on the Khans tent in the movie Nomad and others I saw in depictions of Genghis' tent as well as a description in Conn Iggulden's book Wolf of the Plains.

Here is thee final product:

Ger is made out of Pratley putty, Oxen and Wheels come from an Essex limber, Archer is Museum and the Fire by Irregular.

lonehorseman · Post by **lonehorseman** » Sun May 16, 2010 8:55 pm

O yea...and the Wagon is cardboard

. Now to decide on figures and then paint em up...decisions decisions decisions

Strategos69 · Post by **Strategos69** » Mon May 17, 2010 9:29 am

It looks great! And it is a very original idea. Well done!

Jilu · Post by **Jilu** » Wed May 19, 2010 5:40 am

Awsome !

Polkovnik · Post by **Polkovnik** » Wed May 19, 2010 12:54 pm

lonehorseman wrote:O yea...and the Wagon is cardboard

Yes, we can see that

. The model is great but the visible corrugated carboard edge of the wagon base does detract from the rest of the model. Could you not fill this in ?

lonehorseman · Post by **lonehorseman** » Wed May 19, 2010 6:28 pm

I was thinking the same...but how?

Polkovnik · Post by **Polkovnik** » Thu May 20, 2010 11:26 am

Couldn't you just put some filler in it ?

lonehorseman · Post by **lonehorseman** » Thu May 20, 2010 2:19 pm

It warps the carboard

I think I will redo it with Balsa and an MDF base