Later Sicilian?

pikeman666 · Post by **pikeman666** » Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:52 pm

Is there such a list? I think it would contain Almughvars . . .
Thanks!

Robert241167 · Post by **Robert241167** » Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:57 pm

Yes there is.

And it can.

And it is in Oath Of Fealty.

Rob

whitehorses · Post by **whitehorses** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 12:32 am

Shame there's naff all else worth having

Knights & Off Sp/Imp.Ft do not a brilliant list make

david53 · Post by **david53** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 10:11 am

whitehorses wrote:Shame there's naff all else worth having

Knights & Off Sp/Imp.Ft do not a brilliant list make

Why not?

thefrenchjester · Post by **thefrenchjester** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:24 pm

Hi ,
check it better please take your time ;
have a look on the saracen foot ;
try to do two or three lists, play with it and after ask us ( if if you want

) what you think of this list ;
furthermore the bonus is that the troops are very morphable;
for me , it 's a tournament tiger Army and a colorfoul Army a mix of Christian and Muslim troops very interesting to read his Hitory before playing it ;
have a nice day

Kind Regards

thefrenchjester

ethan · Post by **ethan** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 5:08 pm

I think it is strongest in the pre-Almughavar period with a mix of Knights, LH and Islamic infantry.

fgilson · Post by **fgilson** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 8:44 pm

david53 wrote:
whitehorses wrote:Shame there's naff all else worth having

Knights & Off Sp/Imp.Ft do not a brilliant list make
Why not?

Knights are relatively expensive, as are Almughavar foot, and so you end up with a small army if you take quite a few of both. More to the point, though, the Almughavars and knights can't be in battle lines together, and delivering them into the enemy army side by side risks the almughavars getting overlapped should the knights break off.

whitehorses · Post by **whitehorses** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 8:54 pm

Pfffttt...
Can't say I'm overwhelmed exactly.

The Knights & almughavars

The Saracen Light Horse is all good stuff, but you can't have them & the Almughavars, so they're out.

The Saracen Close fighters are good for looking after duff terrain as Med. Foot, but I wouldn't trust them to last for long in the open

And Defensive Sp however well armoured I just dislike as a matter of principle, since they're not good for attacking with.

Which leaves assorted Xbows & Archers. Yay?

Ghaznavid · Post by **Ghaznavid** » Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:33 am

thefrenchjester wrote:Hi ,
check it better please take your time ;
have a look on the saracen foot ;
try to do two or three lists, play with it and after ask us ( if if you want ) what you think of this list ;
furthermore the bonus is that the troops are very morphable;
for me , it 's a tournament tiger Army and a colorfoul Army a mix of Christian and Muslim troops very interesting to read his Hitory before playing it ;
have a nice day

Not sure there is a tournament tiger in there, but certainly a pretty decent army (at least in the late Norman and Hohenstaufen incarnations, less sure about the Aragonese period). It sure is a colourful and somewhat romantic army choice and since I've a weak spot for Friedrich II anyway...

david53 · Post by **david53** » Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:12 am

fgilson wrote:
david53 wrote:
whitehorses wrote:Shame there's naff all else worth having

Knights & Off Sp/Imp.Ft do not a brilliant list make
Why not?
Knights are relatively expensive, as are Almughavar foot, and so you end up with a small army if you take quite a few of both. More to the point, though, the Almughavars and knights can't be in battle lines together, and delivering them into the enemy army side by side risks the almughavars getting overlapped should the knights break off.

1. Small armies are good check out the army that one Britcon Quality IMO counts in FOG for a lot.
2. Not being able to form a battle line well you can't do that with any other mounted and foot except Lights.

david53 · Post by **david53** » Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:13 am

fgilson wrote:
david53 wrote:
whitehorses wrote:Shame there's naff all else worth having

Knights & Off Sp/Imp.Ft do not a brilliant list make
Why not?
Knights are relatively expensive, as are Almughavar foot, and so you end up with a small army if you take quite a few of both. More to the point, though, the Almughavars and knights can't be in battle lines together, and delivering them into the enemy army side by side risks the almughavars getting overlapped should the knights break off.

1. Small armies are good check out the army that one Britcon Quality IMO counts in FOG for a lot.
2. Not being able to form a battle line well you can't do that with any other mounted and foot except Lights.

JFAS · Post by **JFAS** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:41 am

Hi all

I am playing the following Later Secilian list

3x TC
2X4 Kn (HV ARM/SUP/UND/L/SW)
3X6 LF (AVG/BOW)
2X4 LH (PROT/AVG/LSP/JAV)
1X4 LH (UNP/AVG/LSP/JAV)
2X8 HVF (PROT/AVG/UND/DEF SP)
1X8 HVF (ARM/AVG/DRILL/DEF SP)
1X6 MF (ARM/SUP/LSP/SW)
1x4 CV (ARM/AVG/UND/L/SW)

1X ATC (COM ITALIAN)
1X8 HVF (PROT/AVG/DRILL/DEF SP)

its ok KN + CV are good
and the 32 def sp are very scary

john fasoulas

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Ghaznavid · Post by **Ghaznavid** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:07 am

JFAS wrote:I am playing the following Later Secilian list
1X6 MF (ARM/SUP/LSP/SW)

Curious, where do you get the Superior MF from? It's obviously not Almughavars but there is no other Superior Foot in that list.

JFAS · Post by **JFAS** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:16 am

tipo
it should say ARM/AVG/LSP/SW the saracen close f troops

john

whitehorses · Post by **whitehorses** » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:09 pm

Defensive Spears. Scary. Er.....?

Nope, does not compute!!

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