Foot Bow* lists?

WombatDazzler · Post by **WombatDazzler** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:10 am

Hi all,

does anyone know any lists that have "good" numbers of Superior Bow* Foot?

tks

Daz

philqw78 · Post by **philqw78** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:25 am

Tibetans should, but don't

JFAS · Post by **JFAS** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:38 am

hi to all

Japan (samurai)
sctos (highlanders)

jf

hammy · Post by **hammy** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:28 am

I don't think many (actually any as yet) have superior bow* foot.

Samurai and Highlanders have lots of average ones.

There are a fair few bow* MF armies in Blood and Gold

stenic · Post by **stenic** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:19 am

hammy wrote:
There are a fair few bow* MF armies in Blood and Gold

Assuming little variance in the Tupi list I'm looking forward to fielding nearly 100 bases of Bow*

Steve P

carlos · Post by **carlos** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:21 pm

stenic wrote:Assuming little variance in the Tupi list I'm looking forward to fielding nearly 100 bases of Bow*

Steve P

Seconded but it's actually their heavy weapons that excite me.

philqw78 · Post by **philqw78** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:42 pm

carlos wrote:Seconded but it's actually their heavy weapons that excite me.

Perv

Scrumpy · Post by **Scrumpy** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:16 pm

So what do the Tupi get apart from loads of bw* stuff ?

stenic · Post by **stenic** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 7:19 am

Scrumpy wrote:So what do the Tupi get apart from loads of bw* stuff ?

Not sure, RBS kindly confirmed that the majority are MF, ave, prot, Undr,Bow*, Hvy Wpn. I would imagine there are a few LF with javelin or bow, or the equivalent of blow-pipes and that's probably it unless a few can be superior. The DBM artillery option is probably too late for the list dates.

Steve P

carlos · Post by **carlos** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:35 pm

stenic wrote:Not sure, RBS kindly confirmed that the majority are MF, ave, prot, Undr,Bow*, Hvy Wpn. I would imagine there are a few LF with javelin or bow, or the equivalent of blow-pipes and that's probably it unless a few can be superior. The DBM artillery option is probably too late for the list dates.

Protected??? With what?

madaxeman · Post by **madaxeman** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:46 pm

carlos wrote:
stenic wrote:Not sure, RBS kindly confirmed that the majority are MF, ave, prot, Undr,Bow*, Hvy Wpn. I would imagine there are a few LF with javelin or bow, or the equivalent of blow-pipes and that's probably it unless a few can be superior. The DBM artillery option is probably too late for the list dates.
Protected??? With what?

Grading is all relative to historical opponents, and the Tupi were known for being thick-skinned - or at least, anyone who used them in DBM had to be thick skinned to take dogs abuse they would usually get from other players for using such a resolutely cheesy army, usually with totally inappropriate figures as well.

grahambriggs · Post by **grahambriggs** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:07 pm

carlos wrote:
stenic wrote:Not sure, RBS kindly confirmed that the majority are MF, ave, prot, Undr,Bow*, Hvy Wpn. I would imagine there are a few LF with javelin or bow, or the equivalent of blow-pipes and that's probably it unless a few can be superior. The DBM artillery option is probably too late for the list dates.
Protected??? With what?

You can have them either unprotected or protected. The latter being for those tribes who used big shields

DavidT · Post by **DavidT** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:48 pm

grahambriggs wrote:You can have them either unprotected or protected. The latter being for those tribes who used big shields

If they have a big shield, how can they have a Heavy Weapon - I thought that Heavy Weapons were Rhomphaia, pole arms, two handed swords etc. all of which would require two hands to wield. Therefore surely those with big shields would have fought more like Swordsmen?

rbodleyscott · Post by **rbodleyscott** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 2:30 pm

DavidT wrote:
grahambriggs wrote:You can have them either unprotected or protected. The latter being for those tribes who used big shields
If they have a big shield, how can they have a Heavy Weapon - I thought that Heavy Weapons were Rhomphaia, pole arms, two handed swords etc. all of which would require two hands to wield. Therefore surely those with big shields would have fought more like Swordsmen?

The shields were for protection from enemy shooting. Presumably they dropped them or slung them on their backs when in melee or themselves shooting.

Clearly they were of limited value, otherwise all the Tupi tribes would have used them.

(BTW Anglo-Danish huscarles fought with two-handed axes, but also carried large shields, presumably for the same reason).

philqw78 · Post by **philqw78** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 2:33 pm

DavidT wrote:If they have a big shield, how can they have a Heavy Weapon - I thought that Heavy Weapons were Rhomphaia, pole arms, two handed swords etc. all of which would require two hands to wield. Therefore surely those with big shields would have fought more like Swordsmen?

They don't need the shield when they are fighting hand to hand because they know the POA for the shield doesn't make any difference so they can throw it behind them.

Cerberias · Post by **Cerberias** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 11:50 am

They don't need the shield when they are fighting hand to hand because they know the POA for the shield doesn't make any difference so they can throw it behind them.

Unless they're fighting unprotected non-heavy weapon armed enemies

stenic · Post by **stenic** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 4:51 pm

carlos wrote:
stenic wrote:Not sure, RBS kindly confirmed that the majority are MF, ave, prot, Undr,Bow*, Hvy Wpn. I would imagine there are a few LF with javelin or bow, or the equivalent of blow-pipes and that's probably it unless a few can be superior. The DBM artillery option is probably too late for the list dates.
Protected??? With what?

Sheaths.

Steve P