Mounting 28mm figures

irondog068 · Post by **irondog068** » Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:24 am

I picked up some Wargames Factory Romans and on the 28mm size base you cannot get 2 ranks to form due to the way the shield is held.

Is there a big hassle mounting them to the medium size base with 4 figures to a base?

Thanks
Irondog

deadtorius · Post by **deadtorius** » Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:57 am

would 3 heavy foot per base help out at all? might make some more room between themfor the sticking out shield. Putting them on MF bases is ok for friendly games but might cause some concern in tournaments where we go by base size to show the troop type so your big bases for the heavies will mislead your opponent to think they are MF.

irondog068 · Post by **irondog068** » Tue Sep 29, 2009 1:23 am

Mounting them 3 to a base may look a little less impressive since all BGs are only 4 bases. For the people who live and die for tournys is the number of figures also as important as depth? For the most part it is quicker to tell who is heavy and who is medium by the number of figures on the base then telling which figures are standing on a 10mm bigger base (5mm for 15mm). That is why I never understood why there is a option for medium foot to be mounted 4 to a stand.

Irondog

willb · Post by **willb** » Tue Sep 29, 2009 1:23 am

per the authors and several other tournament players, base depth does not matter that much. Also, Wargames Factory Romans would only be classed as heavy foot and never medium.

irondog068 · Post by **irondog068** » Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:38 am

Well I know that they are only Heavys. Been playing with Romans for 20 some odd years. I was just refering to putting 3 on a heavy base but I would think that would look, well odd.

If I can go deeper I will do that.

You could use them as freed Galtiators using Roman army equitment as medium foot

Irondog

Mithridates · Post by **Mithridates** » Tue Sep 29, 2009 6:03 am

Irondog

Not sure if you have seen Scott's Blog but I find it full of useful information. He did a series of informative articles on the WF Romans - facing the same issue you have raised.

http://macpheesminiaturemen.blogspot.co ... le-of.html

Hope this is helpful.

Garry

OldenTired · Post by **OldenTired** » Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:43 am

since going to FOG i put my heavies on at three per base if they're a big figure, and most all of my MF.

the warlord games romans don't look so bad, and it's just plain difficult to put four on.

pcelella · Post by **pcelella** » Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:21 am

I got my Romans to fit four to a 60x20 base, but it did take some work. First I tried to pose the figures in a way that minimized the impact of the "shield in the back" effect. Then I had to arrange all the figs on the stands before gluing to avoid interferences. I use white glue, so that gives me some time to shift the figures around before the glue sets. I also did a bit a clipping on the plastic bases. The unfortunate thing is that although everything fits and looks nice, the stands can only be arranged in a single arrangement and can't be mixed up. I have a bunch of 60x20 bases from Litko, so this is what I'll probably continue doing, but if I was to start from scratch, I think that I would use 60x25 bases instead. I think that the extra 5mm would be enough to avoid interferences, and that would still be a depth less than that used for medium and light foot stands.

Peter C

nikgaukroger · Post by **nikgaukroger** » Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:28 am

I've mounted my 28mm HF Romans on a mix of base dpeths - normal HF ones for the front rank and MF sized ones for the second rank, with A&A figures at least this gave enough room to rank them up nicely whilst making them obviously different from the all MF based Auxilia to (hopefully) avoid confusion.

Of course if you're using the WF ones for a LRR army there would be no issue mounting them all on MF depth bases as they're not going to be confused with anything.

erricolaw · Post by **erricolaw** » Tue Sep 29, 2009 6:03 pm

I've mounted my erly imperial roman WF on 3 figs on 60 x 20 (as per WAB) I've rebased auxilia 3 figs x base 60 x 30 and 2 LF on 60 x 30 (the same for all my HYW english army Front Rank figs).
My problem is with cavalry, originally based for WAB, 1 fig on a 25x50 base.
Now the problem is to put 3 figs of cav. on a 60 x 40 or 50, so I've decided for 2 figs of heavy cav x base.
But about LH ?
1 x base seems to poor but 2 x base may be confused with HC.
I'm loking for a solution and I'm waithing to rebase my cav.
Any help?

irondog068 · Post by **irondog068** » Tue Sep 29, 2009 6:22 pm

Thanks for the help.
I think I will see if there are 60x25mm bases or, to avoid the trouble just use 60x30mm. That way the enemy can close with my Romans.

Thanks for the link about WF figs read it and it is what made me ask. And like Nick said, Romans in armor are only going to be thought of as well, heavy Roman infantry no matter how deep the base.

Irondog

msuspartan · Post by **msuspartan** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:28 am

The only question I have is when using correct bases for HF or MF etc., will this be acceptable for tournament play and by the Tournament officials? I know most people will go by base size but to newbies like me that may be a propblem. (of course going to a tournament as a noob is idiocy anyway!) The big thing here is doing it correctly. 15mm is easy but 25/28 is a different cow all together. Your views. Thanks.

Cheers, Don

batesmotel · Post by **batesmotel** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:06 pm

msuspartan wrote:The only question I have is when using correct bases for HF or MF etc., will this be acceptable for tournament play and by the Tournament officials? I know most people will go by base size but to newbies like me that may be a propblem. (of course going to a tournament as a noob is idiocy anyway!) The big thing here is doing it correctly. 15mm is easy but 25/28 is a different cow all together. Your views. Thanks.

Cheers, Don

As long as the basing you use is consistent and not confusing you should not have any problems with base depths a bit greater than normal or using fewer figures per base. For what it's worth, I've been using 25mm Byzantine cavalry on 20 x 50mm bases (10mm excess depth) for 30+ years and never had a problem with them in tournaments with any of the ancient/medieval rules I've played. FoG is even less dependent on exact base depths or figures per base than most other ancient/medieval rules.

Chris

ShrubMiK · Post by **ShrubMiK** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:15 pm

Except in a few cases it can produce different results when turning 90 degrees!

(I would imagine that most opponents/umpires would expect you to do this as if the bases were of the depth specified in the rules, in which case no real problem.)

I don't think number of figures per base matters - as has been suggested before if you reduce everything by one figure per bases it is still just as easy to tell them apart.

In response to another question - the option for 4 figures per base for MF (and cataphracts) is because many veterans out there already have large armies based that way for other rulesets. It's a hangover from long ago that doesn't have any real meaning nowadays...if you go back to WRG 7th edition and prior, the number of figures on the base was critical for calculating the results of combat. I keep getting tempted to rebase mine so I can get more bases out of my current figure collection. And have just tonight rediscovered the fact that I have to stagger my 15mm-ish cataphracts to get them to fit. So don't assume it is only a 25mm-ish problem