often there's 2-3 BGs of knights and the rest are skirmisher

BlackPrince · Post by **BlackPrince** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:52 am

To quote Graham Briggs from another post; "often there's 2-3 BGs of knights and the rest are skirmishers"

At this stage all my FoG expereince has been against only three other players no one has tried this type of army so my question is.
Does this type of army actually win any games?

Keith

sadista · Post by **sadista** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:53 am

Choose a spot, smash it with knights. Harass and delay the remainder of the army.

hammy · Post by **hammy** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 8:48 am

sadista wrote:Choose a spot, smash it with knights. Harass and delay the remainder of the army.

Which is all well and good but it isn't going to take enough APs to break the enemy army

If it were DBM where in practice you could win a game by killing perhaps 15% of the enemy troops or less then fine. In FoG this will just get you a lot of possibly winning draws.

Polkovnik · Post by **Polkovnik** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:43 am

Not much good against a lot of opponents, eg :
A line of spear
More knights
Lots of longbow

davidandlynda · Post by **davidandlynda** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:53 am

The Serbs seem to do alright but then they have 4 BG of Knights and a lot of aggresive skirmishers not delaying ones,3rd and 6th at Britcon and 6th at the IWF
David

paulburton · Post by **paulburton** » Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:24 am

I think it would depend on what the skirmishers are. If all Light Foot then A light Horse/bow, sword cavalry army would cause it problems. If there are plenty of Light Horse supporting the Knights then I think it would do well. The Serbian Lancer/Sword Light Horse would be pretty good against other skirmishers. Though if the Knights get separated from their supports (either chased off by cavalry or just outrun in charges then, if undrilled, they might be picked apart.

Still my experience of heavily armoured knights (from the receiving end only) is that they are very dangerous. But then I don't have much in the way of Spear or Longbow armies, though I might well use Hellenistic Successors in an Open 25 mm competition.

Some armies would cause it headaches as mentioned above.

Benvartok · Post by **Benvartok** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:58 am

My 25mm Norman Knights supported by dismounted knights and light foot have done quite well aganist a variety of armies.

The problems occur when you are outnumbered by opposing BGs, I lost to Persians - those Immortals held on and on and on. If you can't do enough damage quickly then your holding troops can get pushed back and the flanks of the knights are exposed. Or if you can't control them, I personally put a TC with each Knight BG to keep them on task!

jlopez · Post by **jlopez** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:08 am

hammy wrote:
sadista wrote:Choose a spot, smash it with knights. Harass and delay the remainder of the army.
Which is all well and good but it isn't going to take enough APs to break the enemy army

If it were DBM where in practice you could win a game by killing perhaps 15% of the enemy troops or less then fine. In FoG this will just get you a lot of possibly winning draws.

That is of course if you charge a knight BG square onto one enemy BG and never expand an element out to contact another enemy BG. Undrilled knights should always aim to contact more than one BG either in the impact phase or through expanding (directly in contact or to contact new enemies when pursuing). If you win the fights you are then very close to breaking most armies.