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scorehouse
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Double Mass Attack

Post by scorehouse »

this Hero Trait seems to pop up frequently. what unit should it be attached to for the most effectiveness?
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Re: Double Mass Attack

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scorehouse wrote: Wed Jun 25, 2025 2:16 pm this Hero Trait seems to pop up frequently. what unit should it be attached to for the most effectiveness?
Pair it with aim on a fighter is a good combo.

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Re: Double Mass Attack

Post by milliethedog »

Hi, do you mean Double attack? or is this a new hero from a Mod? if it is double attack i always pair with a heavy artillery
unit as you will get far more use from it than the short term gain on a fighter. Just my 2p worth.
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Re: Double Mass Attack

Post by robman »

If you mean Double Attack, tactical bomber, ideally combined with Lightning Attack and Double Move.
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Re: Double Mass Attack

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milliethedog wrote: Wed Jun 25, 2025 5:34 pm Hi, do you mean Double attack? or is this a new hero from a Mod? if it is double attack i always pair with a heavy artillery
unit as you will get far more use from it than the short term gain on a fighter. Just my 2p worth.
Martin.
Double Mass Attack hero makes a unit provides 2x bonus for Mass Attack effect, that is, when another unit is attacking an adjacent enemy when this unit still has an attack action point. It's always been there.
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Re: Double Mass Attack

Post by DefiantXYX »

VirgilInTheSKY wrote: Thu Jun 26, 2025 4:58 am It's always been there.
Really? Could swear I have never had this hero.
I tought this trait is coming with the new DLC, I think I saw it on a screenshot.

Better that nothing in the first years of war, I would recycle that hero later.
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Re: Double Mass Attack

Post by Tassadar »

DefiantXYX wrote: Thu Jun 26, 2025 12:41 pm Really? Could swear I have never had this hero.
It's always been there, just not possible to normally get via random hero pool, same as All-Terrain Entrenchment, Ambusher, Amphibious, City Fighter, Expert Recon, Fast Entrenchment, Fast Retreat, Half-Track Support, Ignore Mass Attack, Last Stand, No Retreat, On the Roll (after an old patch), Organized Landing, Precision Weapon, Rapid Fire 2x (again after patch), Safe Transit, Skilled Recon, Smart Entrenchment, Splitter and probably some more I forgot to mention.

These can sometimes be added in custom heroes (and a few of these I'm sure you'll remember from Axis Operations or other campaigns) or can exist in mods, but cannot be randomly acquired. That's probably since a lot of these effects are very minor compared to other things that give a more meaningful bonus. Still I like these small bonuses such heroes give and I think they could and should be utilized a lot more.
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Re: Double Mass Attack

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maybe its popping up because of a Mod. I don't care< I'm not a "purists" when it comes to Heroes. my question was more along the lines should Double Mass be put on say an Infantry unit to help attack Forts, Entrenched Cities, Etc, or is it just an extra addition to put on any unit so that unit can pile on whenever the situation occurs?
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Re: Double Mass Attack

Post by VirgilInTheSKY »

scorehouse wrote: Sun Jun 29, 2025 7:39 pm maybe its popping up because of a Mod. I don't care< I'm not a "purists" when it comes to Heroes. my question was more along the lines should Double Mass be put on say an Infantry unit to help attack Forts, Entrenched Cities, Etc, or is it just an extra addition to put on any unit so that unit can pile on whenever the situation occurs?
Anything that fights adjacent to the enemy should work. Infantry, tank, fighter. Recons don't provide mass attack bonus iirc.
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Re: Double Mass Attack

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thanks especially for the Recon's don't participate info
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Re: Double Mass Attack

Post by VirgilInTheSKY »

Recon gives recon bonus, that's why they don't participate in mass attack.
scorehouse
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Re: Double Mass Attack

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speaking of Recon. if I have an Air Recon with Aim Assist between 2 fighters with aggressive counter when attacked will the Assist and Recon traits take effect when the fighters defend themselves? and will they help with Double Support?
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Re: Double Mass Attack

Post by VirgilInTheSKY »

scorehouse wrote: Tue Jul 01, 2025 11:42 pm speaking of Recon. if I have an Air Recon with Aim Assist between 2 fighters with aggressive counter when attacked will the Assist and Recon traits take effect when the fighters defend themselves? and will they help with Double Support?
Aiming Assistance should work as long as the unit attacking/defending is adjacent to the unit, but the air recon trait only works on target underneath the unit, not to adjacent combat iirc.
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