Lists, lists, lists ...

[nikgaukroger]

Welcome to the next round of madness that is FoG:R list writing

The plan is that as with the ancient/medieval lists Richard will be the keeper of the documents, version controller and sanity check.

Obviously what is discussed is confidential, especially things like deadlines and so on.

[nikgaukroger]

To outline the task ahead here are the 6 books that are to be published and the dates by which we need to get the document to Osprey.

FYI the book titles are fixed so no matter how cheesy/odd they are we are stuck with them

Contents are the proposal that Charles put forward on which basis Slitherine and Osprey have agreed to go forward, however, I expect we have some flexibility here should list development throw up issues or ideas but that may be limited by the availability of Osprey artwork.


FOGR1: Wars of Religion - basically TYW & ECW

Text required by 15/01/10

1. Scots Covenanter 1639-1651
2. Bishops War English 1639-1640
3. Early ECW Royalist 1642-1643
4. Parliamentarian 1642-1648
5. Irish Confederate 1641-1652
6. Later ECW Royalist 1643-1646
7. Scots Royalist 1644-1646
8. New Model 1645-1660
9. Middle Dutch 1609-1648
10. Low Country Spanish 1609-1659
11. German Catholic 1618-1631
12. German Catholic 1632-1648
13. German Protestant 1618-1648
14. Transylvanian 1618-1629
15. Danish 1611-1645
16. Swedish 1630-1634
17. Swedish 1635-1648
18. French 1622-1648
19. French Fronde 1649-1655ish
20. French Royalist 1649-1660


FOGR2: Trade and Treachery - Italian Wars, etc.

Text required by 15/03/10

1. French in Italy 1494-1559
2. Italian States 1494-1553
3. Spanish 1494-1518
4. Swiss 1494-1515
5. Early Caroline Imperialist 1519-1533
6. Venetian 1494-1559
7. Later Caroline Imperialist 1534-1559
8. North African States 1494-1698
9. Moroccan 1494-1698
10. Portuguese 1494-1578
11. French in Northern Europe 1494-1559
12. English 1494-1559
13. Scots 1494-1568
14. Irish 1494-1603
15. Scandinavian 1494-1523
16. Early Polish 1494-1575
17. Early German Imperial 1494-1519
18. German States 1494-1554
19. Early Danish 1524-1587
20. Early Swedish 1524-1617
21. Early Russian 1494-1552


FOGR3: Clash of Empires - Middle East and Eastern Europe (ish)

Text required by 15/05/10

1. Ottoman Turk 1494-1625
2. Knights of St John 1494-1575
3. Hungarian 1494-1526
4. Wallachian, Moldavian and Transylvanian 1494-1606
5. Tartar 1494-1698
6. Mamluk Egyptian 1494-1517
7. Anatolian emirates 1494-1515
8. White Sheep Turk 1494-1504
9. Safavid Persian 1499-1698
10. Imperial Austrian 1559-1618
11. Venetian 1560-1617
12. Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth 1576-1631
13. Swedish 1618-1629
14. Cossack 1550-1698
15. Russian 1553-1647
16. Georgian and Circassian 1494-1698
17. Siberian Tribes 1494-1698
18. Elizabethan English 1559-1603
19. French Wars of Religion Catholic 1562-1597
20. French Wars of Religion Huguenot 1562-1598
21. Early Dutch 1568-1609
22. Early Low Country Spanish 1568-1609


FOGR4: Colonies and Conquest - Eastern (mostly)

Text required by 15/07/10

1. Portuguese Colonial 1494-1698
2. Arab States (Yemen, Oman etc) 1494-1698
3. Early Moghul 1494-1556
4. Later Moghul 1557-1698
5. Islamic Indian 1494-1687
6. Somali 1494-1698
7. Abyssinian 1494-1698
8. Hindu Indian 1494-1698
9. Maratha 1646-1698
10. Zanj 1494-1698
11. Ming Chinese 1494-1683
12. Tibetan 1494-1698
13. Early Manchu and Jurchen 1494-1635
14. Mongol 1494-1698
15. Wo-k’ou Pirates 1542-1570
16. Dutch Colonial 1602-1698
17. Sinhalese 1494-1698
18. Indonesian or Malay 1494-1698
19. Japanese 1494-1614
20. Korean 1494-1698
21. Burmese, Siamese, Laotian and Khmer 1494-1698
22. Vietnamese 1494-1698
23. Manchu and Ch’ing Chinese 1601-1698
24. Polynesian and Melanesian 1494-1698


FOGR5: Duty and Glory - Late C17th Europe

Text required by 15/09/10

1. Early Louis XIV French 1661-1692
2. Later Louis XIV French 1692-1698
3. Spanish 1660-1698
4. Portuguese 1640-1698
5. Restoration English 1661-1688
6. Later Dutch 1649-1688
7. Anglo-Dutch 1688-1698
8. Savoyard 1648-1698
9. Monmouth Rebel 1685
10. Irish Jacobite 1689-1691
11. Brandenburg-Prussia 1655-1698
12. Saxon 1683-1698
13. Bavarian 1675ish-1698
14. Later Polish 1632-1698
15. Later Danish 1649-1698
16. Later Swedish 1649-1698
17. Later Imperialist 1649-1698
18. Hungarian 1670-1685
19. Later Russian 1648-1698
20. Later Venetian 1645-1698
21. Later Ottoman Turk 1625-1698


FOGR6: Cities of Gold - America and Africa

Text required by 15/11/10

1. Aztec 1494-1521
2. Tarascan and Tlaxcalan (including early Conquistadors) 1494-1521
3. Mixtec and Zapotec 1494-1521
4. West African Forest Peoples 1494-1698
5. West Sudanese (actually south west of the Sahara!) 1494-1698
6. Tuareg 1494-1698
7. Central African States 1494-1698
8. Mayan 1494-1697
9. Spanish Colonial 1524-1698
10. Pueblo Indian 1494-1692
11. Natchez 1494-1698
12. Inca 1494-1572
13. Machupe 1494-1600
14. Tupi and Tapuya 1494-1692
15. Buccaneer 1624-1698
16. Alwa 1494-1504
17. Wadj 1494-1698
18. Funj 1504-1698
19. Shaiqiya 1660-1698
20. French Colonial 1603-1698
21. English and Dutch in North America 1607-1698
22. New Model English in West Indies 1654-1655
23. Eastern Forest American 1494-1698
24. North West American 1494-1698

[Ghaznavid]

Welcome to the next round of madness that is FoG:R list writing

Hmm madness, sanity checks, you been playing CoC recently Nik?
At least the deadlines are decent this time, must be a first since I got involved with FoG.
Titles are about what we have come to expect I'm afraid, just glorifying import taxes is a new highlight.

At first glance the general framework looks fine at least from my point of view. Just German states in book2 might become messy within one list.

One question on: Book 5 - 18. Hungarian 1670-1685 (yes I know I'm getting ahead of myself)
Is that suppose to cover the Kuruczok uprisings? If yes, shouldn't the list extend to the end of the covered period (seems to be 1698)?

[paulrobinson]

Chaps

I have volunteered to continue being inolved with production of FoG lists much against my better judgement, I don't think I can keep up the therapy

I will probably lurk as mainly I'll be proof reading and also helping to source and supply the photos for the final books, so need to know what I am asking for from maunfacturers etc. Have to admit Renaissance isn't my thing but when Nik asked me about what Osprey books I had that covered the period I was surpised that it amounts to a sizeable chunk of a sizeable collection

Tally Ho

Paul

PS If you get talking to anyone from Yorkshire and they shake your hand, check that you still have your rings on, if they give you a hug check for your wallet and any ear rings and if they offer you a pint then they ain't really from Yorkshire. so no need to check the other points

[nikgaukroger]

Hmm madness, sanity checks, you been playing CoC recently Nik?

Just a modern day GURPS game set in the Fens - technomancy and Nazi occult

At first glance the general framework looks fine at least from my point of view. Just German states in book2 might become messy within one list.

One question on: Book 5 - 18. Hungarian 1670-1685 (yes I know I'm getting ahead of myself)
Is that suppose to cover the Kuruczok uprisings? If yes, shouldn't the list extend to the end of the covered period (seems to be 1698)?

The lists are the framework Osprey agreed and there will be some flexibility - certainly on dates of lists. I will assume you have just volunteered to do these two

[nikgaukroger]

What woud people think about swapping the following Trade & Treachery armies:

15. Scandinavian 1494-1523
16. Early Polish 1494-1575
19. Early Danish 1524-1587
20. Early Swedish 1524-1617
21. Early Russian 1494-1552

with the following Clash of Empire armies:

18. Elizabethan English 1559-1603
19. French Wars of Religion Catholic 1562-1597
20. French Wars of Religion Huguenot 1562-1598
21. Early Dutch 1568-1609
22. Early Low Country Spanish 1568-1609


To my mind the Scandanavian, etc. sit better (no claims for perfection) with the Eastern European ones and the English, etc. better with the Italian Wars, etc. than where they are currently listed.

Thoughts?

[nikgaukroger]

Note - Slitherine and Osprey have agreed the above change to the list books.