Why no suppression and full damage?

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happyemi
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Why no suppression and full damage?

Post by happyemi »

I apologize for the yet-another-combat-screen topic, but I'm able to understand the combat log 99% of the times but sometime something like this shows up
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I have two questions:
1) Why is the full damage applied before the enemy can attack back? The difference of initiative is 3, shouldn't only 60% be applied at the begining?

2) Suppressions number are off. With 6 killed and both unit being 0 stars, I'd expect 3+1 = 4 suppression. Moreover the screen mentions 6 kills only, it doesn't even report the blue die. So, what is happening here?
LevV
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Re: Why no suppression and full damage?

Post by LevV »

honestly i'm not very familiar with how to read these reports , but did the defender had only 1 unsuppressed strength before attack? that would explain all
Locarnus
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Re: Why no suppression and full damage?

Post by Locarnus »

happyemi wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 11:01 pm [...]

I have two questions:
1) Why is the full damage applied before the enemy can attack back? The difference of initiative is 3, shouldn't only 60% be applied at the begining?

2) Suppressions number are off. With 6 killed and both unit being 0 stars, I'd expect 3+1 = 4 suppression. Moreover the screen mentions 6 kills only, it doesn't even report the blue die. So, what is happening here?
My guess is:
3 ini difference
=> 60% of your dice rolls count before enemy shoots back
=> 5 of 6 (10 str * std rate of fire * 60%) first rolls are red "kill rolls"
=> 5 kills + 2 suppression (5 kills / 2 rounded down) from those first 6 rolls
=> enemy shoots back with 8 str - 5 kills - 2 suppression = 1 unsuppressed strength

last 4 rolls (including 1 kill and 1 suppression roll) are applied after that

Panzer Corps engine removes all suppression from attacked unit, after the combat is concluded (no lingering suppression)
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happyemi
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Re: Why no suppression and full damage?

Post by happyemi »

Ah yes, that totally make sense. The fact that 60% of kills+supp is the same as the number of kills totally misled me.

But still, suppression should have been reported in the combat window, as it's correctly reported 99% of times. I guess I'll just call this a graphics glitch and move on :D
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