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Land Cruiser

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So in today's Panzer Corps 2 Insider article a very special line was uttered by General Secretary Kerensky about 1946. "And, as a potential teaser to what else this super sizing of specific units might allow us to have in store... let’s just say big battleships were absolutely on our list to super size, but there is also the very interesting concept of big cruisers as well. But as most of the campaign takes place across the vast lands of the United States... it might just have to be some kind of... land cruiser."

https://www.slitherine.com/news/the-ins ... tions-1946
(Link to article so you guys can check it out). So not are only the ships getting supersized, we may now be getting one of the most ridiculous idea's ever dreamed up by Speer (though it was likely just a joke design made after a drunken night of fun).
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Re: Land Cruiser

Post by VirgilInTheSKY »

Yeah I was also thinking about it, if there is going to be some kind of "land cruiser", it would be this one.
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Re: Land Cruiser

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VirgilInTheSKY wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2023 12:52 am Yeah I was also thinking about it, if there is going to be some kind of "land cruiser", it would be this one.
Could also be the P.1500 Monster, which would just be the Gustav on a chassis. Honestly I hope it's both of them. Though, I'd like them to be added to the core force so I can put heroes on them.
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Post by Kerensky »

The bigger German vehicles get, the smaller the namesake creature.

Maus... Ratte... I never thought 'Monster' fit into that theme. Maybe something more like Meerschweinchen.

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Re: Land Cruiser

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Kerensky wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2023 1:08 am The bigger German vehicles get, the smaller the namesake creature.

Maus... Ratte... I never thought 'Monster' fit into that theme. Maybe something more like Meerschweinchen.

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P.5000 Bärtierchen (Tardigrade) Speer just turns Berlin into a giant moving city like in Warhammer 40K
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Re: Land Cruiser

Post by wecker »

Ah - I smell great satisfaction ahead :D

I wonder how the Germans got to Alaska?

And hey - did you notice the national flag of Germany changed in the AO1946 picture?

It is the so-called Wirmer flag - the flag that would have been introduced after the successful coup against AH on the 20th of July 1944...

But back again to the game mechanics:

Does this mean that there is an extended damage model for ships and the Land Cruiser / Ratte et. al.? And a possibility to repair certain damage on the high seas like in the original Pacific General from SSI?

Do you plan to enlarge also the carriers?

Is this also planned for the Pacific DLC?

That would be awesome :shock:
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And when they finally take up the DLC Panzer Corps 2: Pacific, which they have been doing for the third year)))
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Re: Land Cruiser

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I wonder what kind of new toys for German we get? Because we probably we will figth against hordes of m26 pershing, t-29, t-28 HT
My guess:
E-100 (heavy tank, faster version of maus, with alternative artyllery mode
E-50 (better Panther II mostly)
E-25, (faster, rapid fire trait jagdpanzer iv 70)
Indien Panzer (less slot Panther II for new indepedent India, reward unit)
Leopard 1?

USA:
T-34 (better t-29
m-103
M46/47/m48 patton tanks?
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Ryba666 wrote: Thu Sep 07, 2023 3:25 pm I wonder what kind of new toys for German we get? Because we probably we will figth against hordes of m26 pershing, t-29, t-28 HT
My guess:
E-100 (heavy tank, faster version of maus, with alternative artyllery mode
E-50 (better Panther II mostly)
E-25, (faster, rapid fire trait jagdpanzer iv 70)
Indien Panzer (less slot Panther II for new indepedent India, reward unit)
Leopard 1?

USA:
T-34 (better t-29
m-103
M46/47/m48 patton tanks?
Maybe M41 Walker Bulldog prototypes T37, I'm not sure on the M103 as that was in the 50's and was more built to take on the IS-3
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Re: Land Cruiser

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Yes but it will be TOTALY alternative history, as germans we already figth against tanks like t-44, t-44-100, centurion mk1 and mk2, is-3 so i dont see a problem with historical accuracy :D
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Re: Land Cruiser

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Ryba666 wrote: Thu Sep 07, 2023 6:05 pm Yes but it will be TOTALY alternative history, as germans we already figth against tanks like t-44, t-44-100, centurion mk1 and mk2, is-3 so i dont see a problem with historical accuracy :D
True, but we could see some straight up fictional designs from games from World of Tanks like the T110E3, E4, and E5. Even some T92 super heavy howitzers
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Thunderhog wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:23 pm
https://www.slitherine.com/news/the-ins ... tions-1946
(Link to article so you guys can check it out). So not are only the ships getting supersized, we may now be getting one of the most ridiculous idea's ever dreamed up by Speer (though it was likely just a joke design made after a drunken night of fun).
Landkreuzer P. 1000 Ratte
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The tank was planned to be 1000 tonnes [2200 lbs/tonne]

First-Off!... transporting such a "HUGE"... "SUPER-HEAVY-TANK"... would require a very-large-transport -ship to ferry it across a possible turbulent ocean... where this weighted tank could easily cause the transport ship to roll-over and sink if the sea's are stormy!.

Second!... it would be "IMPERATIVE" to also capture an "OIL-REFINERY"... "intact and operational" to feed this thirsty beast the enormous quantity of "FUEL" that it would require to continue functioning.

This "TANK" looks like it will have extreme difficulty transitioning over hilly-regions, mountains and areas where the surface is weak because of erosion of subsurface limestone... this is where the ground can collapse unexpectedly from such surface-weight!.

So!... have at her if you must!.
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Re: Land Cruiser

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Regarding... "Landkreuzer P. 1000 Ratte".

Mountains: Of course "Tanks" are unable to traverse "Mountains", however... usually there are road-passes through these mountains. Some well constructed... others... are very dangerous with steep edges on the road side falling off to the lower areas. Some with very Steep inclines which make them difficult to navigate, and in other instances... Steep declines in elevation are parts of the road network. All in all... not the best terrain for a Tank!.
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Post by VirgilInTheSKY »

Well, the transportation shouldn't be an issue if we build/assemble it on American soil, I guess. That sounds more reasonable than sending all the parts from Germany to India and then take up some ships to make it across the Pacific to finally get that thing into action.
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VirgilInTheSKY wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 1:29 pm Well, the transportation shouldn't be an issue if we build/assemble it on American soil, I guess. That sounds more reasonable than sending all the parts from Germany to India and then take up some ships to make it across the Pacific to finally get that thing into action.
The Americans would rather render their "Industrial Infrastructure" completely unusable before permitting such to be given into the hands of an 'Enemy'!. For Example, even if the Germans had occupied the Caucasus Oilfields... it would take an immense effort to revitalize them back into functioning operation after the Russians had savaged them.

This is better understood as... Scorched earth https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
The term was first used in English in a 1937 report on the Second Sino-Japanese War (1937–45) and is believed to be a translation of the Chinese phrase jiāotŭ ( zhèngcè ).

A scorched-earth policy is a military strategy of destroying everything that allows an enemy to be able to fight a war, including water, food, humans, animals, plants and any kind of tools and infrastructure. Its use is possible by a retreating army to leave nothing of value to the attacking force or by an advancing army to fight against unconventional warfare. Scorched earth... From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

VERDICT!!!... So "No!"... to being able to construct such a "Behemoth" in the continental U.S. where also it could be subject to "Air Assault" and what-ever-else!. On top of that... it would take a considerable amount of time to construct this gargantuan piece of equipment. This effort would not be realistic!.

If!... on the other hand... that!... in-fact!... this huge tank was shipped over by some unimaginable transport ship... it would then be subject to submarine attack or even from carrier based attack aircraft. It would be nearly impossible to conclude such a transition overseas of such a large item as this tank.
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Re: Land Cruiser

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Retributarr wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 4:53 pm
If!... on the other hand... that!... in-fact!... this huge tank was shipped over by some unimaginable transport ship... it would then be subject to submarine attack or even from carrier based attack aircraft. It would be nearly impossible to conclude such a transition overseas of such a large item as this tank.
Now that's the reason why I say it sounds better to manufacture assemble it in America than trying to ship that thing there in one piece by whatever means. I wouldn't mind if you tell me you are going to get the other big bad guys like Karl Geraet or Schwerer Gustav across the ocean in the same way.
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Re: Land Cruiser

Post by CptJackSparrow1993 »

Honestly, I just wanna say that I will give the dev team some very serious bonus points if I can just drive this thing over top of an enemy unit and squish it - that way I can use their guts to grease the treads of my "Tank", as a rather famous/infamous American once said. :lol:

One can only dream...
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