Battle of Rouvray 1429,AKA "Day of Herrings"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Herrings
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Re: Day of Herrings coming soon
Air wall system:Defenders can only allowed to move within their fortifications.
Try some automatic move,but cease to work correctly when add some units with points. So the depolyable points for French was removed.
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Re: Day of Herrings coming soon
Here is how R. Pernoud, French historian specialist in Joan of Arc, describes the day of Herrings :
The English convoy was escorted by more than 1500 English, Picardian and Normans led by John Fastolf and Simon Morhier.
The French forces are divided into two armies : John Stewart, Dunois, Mailhac, La Hire, Poton and 400 men decide to intercept the convoy on the road while the Count of Clermont and 4000 men go to Rouvray-Saint-Denis. The two French armies will never succeed in uniting.
The English vanguard notice the movements of the 400 men and make the convoy stop and get into a defensive position, using stakes and the chariots as FF, preventing the French cavalry from charging. So the 400 men of the French army dismount while all the English remain on horseback, except the bowmen ready to shoot.
The count of Clermont sends messages to John Stewart and Dunois asking them to wait for him, but eager, they charge with their 400 men on foot. Seeing that Clermont's main army of 4000 men is far away, do not rush and won't join Stewart's 400 men, the English mounted knights and squires hastily spring from behind the FF and charge the 400 men on foot, routing them. The French lose 400 men. The English pursue the routers in the greatest disorder. La Hire and Poton (two French knights) succeed in rallying about sixty men and pursue the English pursuers, "killing several of them".
At the same time, the count of Clermont and his 4000 men don't attack and leave.
Many noblemen, captains and warlords on the French side are killed : Guillaume d’Albret, John Stewart, Jean Chabot lord of Verduran, etc. Many are wounded, such as Dunois. The survivors go back to the city under the protection of La Hire, Poton and Jamet du Tillet as a rearguard.
The count of Clermont's attitude is poorly perceived by the inhabitants of Orléans. The Journal du siege d'Orléans (that reports many facts about the siege) says "he didn't act honestly, but shamefully".
Hoping it'll help.
The English convoy was escorted by more than 1500 English, Picardian and Normans led by John Fastolf and Simon Morhier.
The French forces are divided into two armies : John Stewart, Dunois, Mailhac, La Hire, Poton and 400 men decide to intercept the convoy on the road while the Count of Clermont and 4000 men go to Rouvray-Saint-Denis. The two French armies will never succeed in uniting.
The English vanguard notice the movements of the 400 men and make the convoy stop and get into a defensive position, using stakes and the chariots as FF, preventing the French cavalry from charging. So the 400 men of the French army dismount while all the English remain on horseback, except the bowmen ready to shoot.
The count of Clermont sends messages to John Stewart and Dunois asking them to wait for him, but eager, they charge with their 400 men on foot. Seeing that Clermont's main army of 4000 men is far away, do not rush and won't join Stewart's 400 men, the English mounted knights and squires hastily spring from behind the FF and charge the 400 men on foot, routing them. The French lose 400 men. The English pursue the routers in the greatest disorder. La Hire and Poton (two French knights) succeed in rallying about sixty men and pursue the English pursuers, "killing several of them".
At the same time, the count of Clermont and his 4000 men don't attack and leave.
Many noblemen, captains and warlords on the French side are killed : Guillaume d’Albret, John Stewart, Jean Chabot lord of Verduran, etc. Many are wounded, such as Dunois. The survivors go back to the city under the protection of La Hire, Poton and Jamet du Tillet as a rearguard.
The count of Clermont's attitude is poorly perceived by the inhabitants of Orléans. The Journal du siege d'Orléans (that reports many facts about the siege) says "he didn't act honestly, but shamefully".
Hoping it'll help.
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Re: Day of Herrings coming soon
Hi Athos,nice to see you again,merry Xmas!
Thanks for help!
I noticed there are several versions of this story.According to none will make gaming experience of this scenario not boring.Cuz all of these records said Clermont as commander left the battlefield without any contact,after French vanguard were destroyed.So imagine it,the game ends after some skirmishes.Therefore I had to alter the historical narratives by some extend.
Thanks for help!
I noticed there are several versions of this story.According to none will make gaming experience of this scenario not boring.Cuz all of these records said Clermont as commander left the battlefield without any contact,after French vanguard were destroyed.So imagine it,the game ends after some skirmishes.Therefore I had to alter the historical narratives by some extend.
Re: Day of Herrings coming soon
Novelist Alexandre Dumas said (approximately) : you can be unfaithful to History as long as you entertain.
Have a nice end of year
Have a nice end of year

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Re: Day of Herrings coming soon
Thanks,best wishes!
It’s not unfaithful.As part of a game at least,shall be made playable. It’s unnecessary to make everything as real as Das Boot
