UK League

tofman04 · Post by **tofman04** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 5:54 pm

Hi,

I have only two games to go.
kme37158 and petran1978, I have posted the last two challenges for you. Password: UK.League
Look for tofman04 and Seleucids.

Cheers

kme37158 · Post by **kme37158** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:04 pm

Must admit I thought I had down them all. Accepted.

petergarnett · Post by **petergarnett** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:17 pm

I think just petran to play v me.

Will post challenge password peterg

steve-h8 · Post by **steve-h8** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:56 pm

Hi all

Just a message to say I am away for a few days.... will be back on Sunday

Cheers

Steve

tofman04 · Post by **tofman04** » Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:53 pm

tofman04 (Seleucids) WIN 100% - 7 pts
kme37158 (Carthaginians) 81% - 4 pts

Thanks for the game, close indeed.

petergarnett · Post by **petergarnett** » Sun Jun 26, 2011 1:40 pm

Finished my last game:-

Me Slaves, win 100% = 7 pts
Petran Macedonians, lose 80% = 4 pts

Cheers

Ironclad · Post by **Ironclad** » Sun Jun 26, 2011 2:03 pm

Ironclad (Pontic) Win 100% - 7 points
Petran1978 (Macedonian) 86% - 4 points.

Terrain unsuitable for both phalanx armies, but gripping battle with Pontic numbers giving my guys the edge.

My last game.

steve-h8 · Post by **steve-h8** » Sun Jun 26, 2011 2:46 pm

steve-h8 win, 100% = 7
petran1978, 40% = 2

Thanks for game

steve-h8 · Post by **steve-h8** » Sun Jun 26, 2011 3:34 pm

Have double checked the scores and had made a few mistakes! have put these right, sorry.

-------------------Played---Win-----Draw---Lose------Points

stockwellpete----6---------6---------0---------0---------42
Ironclad----------7---------4---------0---------3---------39
Petergarnett-----7---------4---------0---------3---------38
steve-h8----------6---------5---------0---------1---------38
Tofman04---------6---------3---------0---------3---------30
Archie-------------7---------2---------0---------5---------28
Kme37158--------7---------1---------0---------6---------21
Petran1978-------6---------1---------0---------5---------21

petran1978 · Post by **petran1978** » Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:52 pm

petran1978 17/38 45% 7 points
vs
tofman04 45/42 100% 2points

stockwellpete · Post by **stockwellpete** » Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:58 pm

stockwellpete (Brutus and Cassius) WIN 100% - 7 points
steve-h8 (Ptolemaic Romans) 64% - 3 points

steve-h8 · Post by **steve-h8** » Sun Jun 26, 2011 5:47 pm

Well done Pete 3 cheers for winning

-------------------Played---Win-----Draw---Lose------Points

stockwellpete----7---------7---------0---------0---------49
steve-h8----------7---------5---------0---------2---------41
Ironclad----------7---------4---------0---------3---------39
Petergarnett-----7---------4---------0---------3---------38
Tofman04---------7---------3---------0---------4---------32
Archie-------------7---------2---------0---------5--------28
Petran1978-------7---------2---------0---------5---------28
Kme37158--------7---------1---------0---------6---------21

Would like to thank everyone for taking part in the League
The scoring system, I think it worked well! Would like to hear your views on it.

stockwellpete · Post by **stockwellpete** » Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:54 pm

steve-h8 wrote:The scoring system, I think it worked well! Would like to hear your views on it.

I wasn't too keen, Steve. Compare the following . . .

Player plays "out of his skin", wins, suffers only 10% casualties - gets 7 points
Two players play out a draw, 100%+ losses each - get 5 points each
Player plays poorly, manages to inflict 81% losses on player who is bottom of the league - gets 4 points

The margin between these quite different outcomes is just 2 or 3 points, which is much too narrow, in my view.

steve-h8 · Post by **steve-h8** » Sun Jun 26, 2011 9:31 pm

Can’t really see what you mean

if you look at the table. The points do reflect how well a player has played. If a player has had a bad game

not playing good or just bad luck he isn’t going to inflict 80% damage is he. If someone plays bad the most he is likely to get is 2 points from causing up to 59%.

Your point on a draw, you would get points per 20% of damage, which could be anything from 0 to 4 if you run out of time. Anyway draws are very few and far, I have only had 2 in god knows how many games.

stockwellpete · Post by **stockwellpete** » Sun Jun 26, 2011 9:37 pm

steve-h8 wrote:Can’t really see what you mean if you look at the table. The points do reflect how well a player has played. If a player has had a bad game not playing good or just bad luck he isn’t going to inflict 80% damage is he. If someone plays bad the most he is likely to get is 2 points from causing up to 59%.

Yes, the points system has worked, I don't regard it as a "basket case" or anything. Just that 7 points for a win, 5 pts for a draw and 4pts for a defeat (possibly) is quite a narrow range. I don't agree with your last point - sometimes I play very badly and still win, it depends on who I am playing and how much luck I get.

Your point on a draw, you would get points per 20% of damage, which could be anything from 0 to 4 if you run out of time. Anyway draws are very few and far, I have only had 2 in god knows how many games.

That's just because you charge at the enemy like a nutter!

(especially with those Gauls!)

steve-h8 · Post by **steve-h8** » Sun Jun 26, 2011 9:52 pm

What are you saying Pete I’m a nut job

you Know me I don’t just sit on a hill or sulk in a wood

Would like to hear from some of the other players, what they think?

stockwellpete · Post by **stockwellpete** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:52 am

Sorry, my last post on this, Steve. In my Condotta tournament of 6 players we had a tie for first place and Frank had a three-way tie for first place in his Barbarian tournament that was structured in exactly the same way. So we do need to come up with a tie-breaker really.

One idea is to go to the corresponding match between the two tied players and see who won that - it is OK as an idea but why privilege that particular fixture over the others?

The idea I am having at the moment is 5pts for a win, 2pts for a draw and 0pts for a defeat. Then one extra bonus point can be awarded in just two circumstances - for the winning player who loses less than 50% of his break points; and for the losing player who inflicts 75% or more damage on his victorious opponent.

steve-h8 · Post by **steve-h8** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:33 pm

I think the league ran fine, so would like to run another one using the same format.

steve-h8 · Post by **steve-h8** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:42 pm

Calling

Petergarnett
Petran1978
Archie
Tofman04
Kme37158
Ironclad
stockwellpete

Going to start UK League 2, I will post a tread using that name!