RTT'42 Campaign: Calendar Day 24 NOV 1942-Battles Ready!

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Re: RTT'42 Campaign: Calendar Day 24 NOV 1942-Battles Ready!

Post by kingt »

Kill bill details:

Allied losses:

10 x Para Inf (from 1 Para)
2 x Para MMG (from 1 Para)
1 x Para 3IN (from 1 Para)
2 x Para 6LB (from 1 Para)
1 x Para SCT (from 1 Para)
2 x GB Lea (1 from 1 Para and 1 from 56Rec)
2 x Jeep (1 from 1 Para and 1 from 56Rec)

1 x GB Inf (from 56Rec)
1 x GB Boye (from 56Rec)
1 x GB 3IN (from 56Rec)
1 x GB LMG (from 56Rec)
1 x GB MMG (from 56Rec)
3 x GB SCT (from 56Rec)
3 x DAIM (from 56Rec)
6 x HUMB (from 56Rec)
1 x SP BOF (from 1 Para)
9 x BREN (1 from 1 Para and 8 from 56Rec)
8 x GB TRK (from 1 Para)
1 x 2LB AT (from 56Rec)
1 x 25 PDR (from 56Rec)
1 x M3 Leader car
Total points: 3646

Remaining Allied units:
1 x GB Lea = 0 points
1 x BREN (from 56th Reconnaissance Rgt./78 Inf. Div.) = 40 points
2 x GB TRK (from 1 Para/1 Para Bde) = 50 points

Total: 90 points. 30% is taken following BN dissolution, or 27 points (12 for the Bren, and 15 for the Trucks), and the remaining 63 points are added to the Allied Replacement Pool.

Allied Leader Losses (These losses are BN or BG Leader related losses....they always automatically return with the BN or BG they originate from):
2 x GB Lea (1 from 1 Para/1 Para and 1 from 56Rec)
2 x Jeep (1 from 1 Para/1 Para and 1 from 56Rec)
1 x M3 Leader car
After checking the map again, the leader representing KingT on the map did not actually die at Medjez, so he's still alive.

Axis Losses:
2 x AK INF (from I/54)
1 x KRD (from 190Pz)
1 x KR SCT (from 190Pz)
4 x FJ INF (from III/5/FJ)
2 x FJ ENG (from III/5/FJ)
1 x FJ MG42 (from III/5/FJ)
2 x FJ MG34 (from III/5/FJ)
1 x FJ SCT (from III/5/FJ)
3 x PZ IIIJ (from 190Pz)
1 x PZ IIIL (from 190Pz)
2 x PZ IVF2 (from 190Pz)
1 x PZ IVG (from 190Pz)
3 x 88 FLAK (from I/54)
2 x SDK 10/4 (1 from 190Pz and 1 from I/54)
1 x SDK 251/1 (from 190Pz)
2 x KUB (1 from 190Pz and 1 from III/5/FJ)
1 x GE TRK (from I/54)
1 x SDK 231 (from 190Pz)
1 x SDK 250/9 (from 190Pz)
1 x SDK 250/9 (from KG command)
Total points: 2922

Remaining Axis units:
- Following losses 190. Panzer BN keeps Armor status, as the remaining tanks are less than 50% of the total number of units. Of 6 remaining units, 2 are Leader and Transport so do not count. 2 of the remaining 4 are tanks, therefore tanks are still more than 50% of units, in order for the BN to remain Armor. It also appears that 190. Panzer BN qualifies for Recon status at this point, having 50% of units with Recon capability.

- Following losses I./54 Flak Regiment has 3/6 88 guns, or 50% of its OOB compliment, which means that it losses its ability of stopping Interdiction Missions and Air Ground support. I./54 Flak Regiment is still Motor.

- III./5 Fallschirmjager BN remains a Foot BN.

Axis Leader Losses (These losses are BN or KG Leader related losses....they always automatically return with the BN or KG they originate from):
2 x KUB (1 from 190. Panzer BN and 1 from III./5 Fallschirmjager BN)
1 x SDK 250/9 (from 190. Panzer BN) from KG leadership

I'll edit this to reflect any changes, or things I may have missed, as this is the first time I do this. :)
Edited with Axis and Allied Leader Losses updates, as well as BN status for 190. Panzer BN.

Later edit: Verified again, against OOB.
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Re: RTT'42 Campaign: Calendar Day 24 NOV 1942-Battles Ready!

Post by Navaronegun »

Close ( it being your first time). :)

1 250 is a leader loss (from the KG leader cadre).

As well, don't forget special BN statuses. I think, 190 Pz becomes either Armor or Armored Recon (Recon and Armor are not mutually exclusive).
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Re: RTT'42 Campaign: Calendar Day 24 NOV 1942-Battles Ready!

Post by mlazar »

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Villa bargou - Axis win - got all the VP

Allied losses - everything except 2 trucks
Axis losses
2 trucks 2 italian light mg 3 italian infantry (bersag something or another ;-) )
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Re: RTT'42 Campaign: Calendar Day 24 NOV 1942-Battles Ready!

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mlazar wrote:
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Villa bargou - Axis win - got all the VP

Allied losses - everything except 2 trucks
Axis losses
2 trucks 2 italian light mg 3 italian infantry (bersag something or another ;-) )
Mlazar, did you guys negotiate cease fire terms? My instructions to Glenghiscan were dissolution and 50% (as opposed to fighting to the end).

Edit- Glenghiscan messaged the Axis board that he did, 4 French trucks are left.

Btw, KingT, in this case, the French get no points. So you slice them by the percentage number (rounding up) and add remaining units to the Force Pool as available replacements. So in this case, 2 French Trucks are added. If there were 5 trucks, kingT, then 3 would be destroyed ( the rounding up part).

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Re: RTT'42 Campaign: Calendar Day 24 NOV 1942-Battles Ready!

Post by mlazar »

Yes 4 trucks left. 2 after our ceasefire agreement.
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Re: RTT'42 Campaign: Calendar Day 24 NOV 1942-Battles Ready!

Post by collier4 »

Navaronegun wrote:Status check. Where are we at gentlemen?

Medjez El Bloody (...I mean "Bab") will be completed today.

Where are we on the other three?

Nav
Haven't heard from Gman for a day or so...we are up to turn 8 or 9.
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Re: RTT'42 Campaign: Calendar Day 24 NOV 1942-Battles Ready!

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Navaronegun wrote:Close ( it being your first time). :)

1 250 is a leader loss (from the KG leader cadre).

As well, don't forget special BN statuses. I think, 190 Pz becomes either Armor or Armored Recon (Recon and Armor are not mutually exclusive).
Updated with leader losses details. And yes it appears 190Pz becomes Armor Recon after the battle.

The kill bill for the French massacre, as it shall be known, will follow later today.
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Re: RTT'42 Campaign: Calendar Day 24 NOV 1942-Battles Ready!

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kingt wrote:.... the French massacre, as it shall be known....

More Allied Propaganda....they are happy in their camps, and many are signing up to join the Arab Legion!
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Re: RTT'42 Campaign: Calendar Day 24 NOV 1942-Battles Ready!

Post by kingt »

Villa bargou kill bill:

Allies:
9 x FR Inf (from II/43RC)
1 x FR LMG (from II/43RC)
2 x 25 ATG (from II/43RC)
1 FR LEA (from II/43RC)
5 x GB TRK (from II/43RC)
1 x FR TRK (from II/43RC)
4 x FR TRK (from II/43RC)
1 x FR 81MM (from II/43RC)
1 x FR HMG (from II/43RC)
1 x FR SCT (from II/43RC)
Total points: 1035

Remaining units:
Of the 4 trucks left, 2 die as per the ceasefire rules. The remaining 2 GB TRK value 50 points, which should be returned to the GB pool. If these were French trucks nothing would return.

Allied Leader Losses (These losses are BN or BG Leader related losses....they always automatically return with the BN or BG they originate from):
1 x FR LEA
1 x FR TRK


Axis Losses:
3 x BERS (from 16/10B)
2 x IT LMG (from 16/10B)
1 x IT TRK (from 16/10B)
1 x IT TRK (from LEA 16/10B)

Total points: 394

Remaining units:
No changes.

Axis Leader Losses (These losses are BN or KG Leader related losses....they always automatically return with the BN or KG they originate from):
1 x IT TRK

Later edit: Verified again, against OOB.
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Re: RTT'42 Campaign: Calendar Day 24 NOV 1942-Battles Ready!

Post by glenghiscan »

Not sure if this is a good win I personally think I lost 2-3 infantry units more than I needed too FairPlay to mlazer for taking them
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Re: RTT'42 Campaign: Calendar Day 24 NOV 1942-Battles Ready!

Post by collier4 »

3rd Battle of Sedjenane

Well, we got to about turn 9 and the Allies asked for a truce. We agreed and so the Axis retain the hex, with the Allies retreating to their start hex.

The undertakers bill was:

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Re: RTT'42 Campaign: Calendar Day 24 NOV 1942-Battles Ready!

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Kill list coming soon. :)
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Re: RTT'42 Campaign: Calendar Day 24 NOV 1942-Battles Ready!

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Allies:
2 x GB LEA 1 from (17/21L and 1 from 5Nth)
1 x GB Jeep from (17/21)L

7 x GB Inf (1 from 17/21L and 6 from 5Nth)
1 x GB Boye (from 5Nth)
2 x GB LMG (1 from 17/21L and 1 from 5Nth)
2 x GB SCT (1 from 17/21L and 1 from 5Nth)
1 x Daim (from 17/21L)
1 x VAL III (from 17/21L)
5 x TRK (3 from 17/21L and 2 from 5Nth)

Total points: 1065

Remaining units:
Retreat with no extra penalty from the attacking hex. 17/21L remains Armor. 5Nth remains Motor.

Later edit: After successive checks, it turns out 17/21L was actually Motor not Armor, and will stay Motor following today's losses.

Allied Leader Losses (These losses are BN or BG Leader related losses....they always automatically return with the BN or BG they originate from):
2 x GB LEA (1 from 17/21L and 1 from 5Nth)
1 x GB Jeep (from 17/21L)

Axis Losses:
1 x Kub (from XI/FP)
1 x SDK 250/9 (from XI/FP)

1 x BERS (from 63 Bers BN)
1 x AB 41 (from 63 Bers BN)
6 x ELEF 5 (from 101 AT and 1 from 63 Bers BN)
Total points: 688

Remaining units:
Collier notches 1 more victory under his belt. The BNs do not lose their statuses, AT BN doesn't loses AT BN status, as I don't think the 66% rule applies to AT BNs.

Axis Leader Losses (These losses are BN or KG Leader related losses....they always automatically return with the BN or KG they originate from):
1 x Kub from XI. Fallschirmpioner BN
1 x SDK 250/9 from KG command

Note: I’m not sure on what kind of SDK was killed by Allies, and whether the Allies lost a VAL III or CRU III (not familiar with their icons, and did not go into the map to check). Let me know if I should change anything. Also let me know if you want the ELEF losses distributed otherwise. I posted this in a bit of hurry, so will double check everything.


Later edit: Verified again, against OOB.
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Re: RTT'42 Campaign: Calendar Day 24 NOV 1942-Battles Ready!

Post by Navaronegun »

KingT,

I’m not sure on what kind of SDK was killed by Allies

It's a 250

..and whether the Allies lost a VAL III or CRU III (not familiar with their icons, and did not go into the map to check).

Need to look when I get home. The VAL III looks lighter in color. The CRU III looks tan/brownish.

Let me know if I should change anything. Also let me know if you want the ELEF losses distributed otherwise.

The way it is is fine, though I think 17/21L is Armor and 5th NTH is Motorized. 8) One thing I'd ask, though, when there are Leader Losses, please don't include them in the point total column, just put them in the Leader Losses Column (it'll confuse me..). :)

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Re: RTT'42 Campaign: Calendar Day 24 NOV 1942-Battles Ready!

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One Battle Left: Djebel Rihane.

JCB and John Puryear, where do we stand?

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Re: RTT'42 Campaign: Calendar Day 24 NOV 1942-Battles Ready!

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Navaronegun wrote:KingT,

The way it is is fine, though I think 17/21L is Armor and 5th NTH is Motorized. 8) One thing I'd ask, though, when there are Leader Losses, please don't include them in the point total column, just put them in the Leader Losses Column (it'll confuse me..). :)
Yeah, that's the way it is. Fixed. And yup, will do, meanwhile, will put them in italics in all the kill bills above.
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Re: RTT'42 Campaign: Calendar Day 24 NOV 1942-Battles Ready!

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Navaronegun wrote:One Battle Left: Djebel Rihane.

JCB and John Puryear, where do we stand?

Nav

15 turns showing remaining. It is a game of probes. cease-fire?
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Re: RTT'42 Campaign: Calendar Day 24 NOV 1942-Battles Ready!

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Navaronegun wrote:KingT,

I’m not sure on what kind of SDK was killed by Allies

It's a 250

..and whether the Allies lost a VAL III or CRU III (not familiar with their icons, and did not go into the map to check).

Need to look when I get home. The VAL III looks lighter in color. The CRU III looks tan/brownish.

Let me know if I should change anything. Also let me know if you want the ELEF losses distributed otherwise.

The way it is is fine, though I think 17/21L is Armor and 5th NTH is Motorized. 8) One thing I'd ask, though, when there are Leader Losses, please don't include them in the point total column, just put them in the Leader Losses Column (it'll confuse me..). :)

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It was a Val III, as it appears as more black and white on the map.
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Re: RTT'42 Campaign: Calendar Day 24 NOV 1942-Battles Ready!

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collier4 wrote:
Navaronegun wrote:KingT,

I’m not sure on what kind of SDK was killed by Allies

It's a 250

..and whether the Allies lost a VAL III or CRU III (not familiar with their icons, and did not go into the map to check).

Need to look when I get home. The VAL III looks lighter in color. The CRU III looks tan/brownish.

Let me know if I should change anything. Also let me know if you want the ELEF losses distributed otherwise.

The way it is is fine, though I think 17/21L is Armor and 5th NTH is Motorized. 8) One thing I'd ask, though, when there are Leader Losses, please don't include them in the point total column, just put them in the Leader Losses Column (it'll confuse me..). :)

Nav
It was a Val III, as it appears as more black and white on the map.
That's a Val. 8)
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Re: RTT'42 Campaign: Calendar Day 24 NOV 1942-Battles Ready!

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jcb989 wrote:
Navaronegun wrote:One Battle Left: Djebel Rihane.

JCB and John Puryear, where do we stand?

Nav

15 turns showing remaining. It is a game of probes. cease-fire?

We'll consult in the Kommandant's conference room near in what used to be the American Consulate. :)
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