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Initially, I tend to agree. The Luftwaffe is in shambles, and it really costs the Allies nothing to plug those holes with garrisons. Now the Axis get a free turn to advance while repairing the air force.richardsd wrote:I think retreating might be a mistake, he can now make you retreat 'forward' which will allow him to make better progress
joerock22 wrote:Initially, I tend to agree. The Luftwaffe is in shambles, and it really costs the Allies nothing to plug those holes with garrisons. Now the Axis get a free turn to advance while repairing the air force.richardsd wrote:I think retreating might be a mistake, he can now make you retreat 'forward' which will allow him to make better progress
But I will wait and see what happens before saying this was a bad move by Morris.
the most important for Axis is time ,not the loss of pp or unit . We just want the Mech's death can win some time .Cybvep wrote:Your success or failure will be determined by the use of MECs. They are the only units the Axis player needs to fear - if you lose them, then the rest will be just a mop-up.
Yes ! Scotland landing seems a kind of feint since there are only Gars ( I don't think Axis have spare money to do a massive sealion under this situation .)joerock22 wrote:I don't know about that Scotland invasion...looks like a waste of PPs and units to me. The only way he could use it is if he did a 1942 Barbarossa and did Sea Lion in 1941. But Scotland is still out of Axis air range and it will be difficult to get more transports there.
Also, should the Axis be occupying the hexes it frees up south of the river? I know this will expose them to counterattack, but at least then the Allies would have to be active with their air and mech forces on their own turn. Maybe losing a few corps to force the Allies to fight wouldn't be such a bad thing.
As somebody facing the self-same Dyle Plan from Mr. Morris, I will say that what you say makes sense in principle, but it's a lot easier to imagine than to execute. During mud/winter, the line Antwerp-Brussels-Liege[fortress] is really formidable, unless you are willing to accept very high losses (and play right into Morris' hands). I did manage to keep a limited offensive up through the winter by hitting the seams between those two points, but it was just a bit of attrition warfare. I was unwilling to move my infantry into the breakthroughs since they would be immediately destroyed. Axis really has to wait for fair weather to get much done against that wall.ncali wrote:I think the Axis made the best of a bad situation during mid-1940. I don't know what the position in England is like at this point, but the Axis should be able to take it in 1941 without too many problems given the footholds they have obtained and the significant British commitment (and presumable losses) in France. On the other hand, trying to attack Russia in '41 would have been really rough as I don't think they have time to build the forces required for that epic battle. 1942 will be a different story, however!
That said, I wonder if the Axis had pushed a bit more against France during the bad weather months of '39-'40. I think this might have led to an earlier fall for France and slightly less difficult campaign when Spring came.
It would be much bloody which Axis would be not able to afford . As you can see that ,even in fair weather , Axis still has such loss especially the luftwaffe loss ! It is a lot of pp ! If it happens In 1943 it is ok , but in 1940 it is too expensive .ncali wrote:
That said, I wonder if the Axis had pushed a bit more against France during the bad weather months of '39-'40. I think this might have led to an earlier fall for France and slightly less difficult campaign when Spring came.
You know everything & you know me well !Diplomaticus wrote:As somebody facing the self-same Dyle Plan from Mr. Morris, I will say that what you say makes sense in principle, but it's a lot easier to imagine than to execute. During mud/winter, the line Antwerp-Brussels-Liege[fortress] is really formidable, unless you are willing to accept very high losses (and play right into Morris' hands). I did manage to keep a limited offensive up through the winter by hitting the seams between those two points, but it was just a bit of attrition warfare. I was unwilling to move my infantry into the breakthroughs since they would be immediately destroyed. Axis really has to wait for fair weather to get much done against that wall.ncali wrote:I think the Axis made the best of a bad situation during mid-1940. I don't know what the position in England is like at this point, but the Axis should be able to take it in 1941 without too many problems given the footholds they have obtained and the significant British commitment (and presumable losses) in France. On the other hand, trying to attack Russia in '41 would have been really rough as I don't think they have time to build the forces required for that epic battle. 1942 will be a different story, however!
That said, I wonder if the Axis had pushed a bit more against France during the bad weather months of '39-'40. I think this might have led to an earlier fall for France and slightly less difficult campaign when Spring came.
Good point my dear friend ,but during the bad weather , the axis troops can not expansion forces there . So the attack can not be consecutive & Allies can just supply or transporsition .BTW , bad weather has low airsupport & high airloss . It won't be a good business for Axis .ncali wrote:Perhaps your right, and Diplomaticus has more experience with this than I. So I'll defer to you guys.
But I would point out that is also more difficult for the French/British to counterattack
in bad weather. Losing a couple infantry corps might be worth it as they are cheap.
And the Allies don't have a huge amount of PP's at this stage either. The Axis also
tends to regain efficiency more easily due to better quality/leaders.
