Are Offensive Spear to powerful vs Impact Foot or Pike?

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LambertSimnel
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Post by LambertSimnel »

peter777 wrote:Hi Ian

I agree about the risks of running one dimension armies, however there many good Cav Lancer type armies in Wolves from Sea, where there are also few a tough spear armies, like your Vikings.

Many Cav Lance based armies dominated the dark ages defeating armies that are largely Spear based, so I am interested in how to do this in FoG.

I consider Spear to be hard to beat with my favourite ex DBM armies , hence my questions about defeating Spear.

It is always good to have bit of plan on how defeat your worst match up.

Peter777
Most of the good Cav Lancer armies in Loaves from the Sea can dismount as Offensive Spear themselves giving you another string to your bow. Mind you, since you probably bought them at Superior Cav prices you aren't going to have as many as a true Offensive Spear army
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Post by nickblackheart »

To go back to an earlier point in the thread - having used 25mm Welsh many times (MEdieval version) I have to say they are fantastic. I tend to rush into the terrain and by having plenty of smaller groups, and larger groups of bow in the spaces between. Cavalry elements acting as support in the right places, skirmishing longbow acting as a royal pain to anything mounted or heavy foot.

Opponents tend to feel the urge to run into the gaps between terrain and after several shots (helped by the skirmishing LF) the bowmen tend to be able to hold off opponents long enough for one or two units to hit flanks from the terrain. They lost 1 game at Ascot last year and only 1 or 2 out of 10 since. Players tend not to want to face the shame of not attacking and fewer still want to play for a draw against what is clearly a rubbish army on paper.

They did well against heavy offensive spear too, again on the principle of ever fighting them in the open unless I had their flank already.

My substancial point remains - varied armies work better than one dimensional ones, even when the individual elements are not that strong. :P

Oh, and an inspired general helped :twisted:
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