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timberwolf15
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Foul weather prevents AA guns from operating

Post by timberwolf15 »

As everyone knows the enemy can bomb your units the AA fires at them but even though the planes are there when its your turn .... in the event the weather has changed to where planes can't fly .... you can't use your aa to shoot at the planes that are sitting right there.

This is a tad aggravating .. I suppose it works the same for the player in the event we attack .. other than that ..
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Re: Foul weather prevents AA guns from operating

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No, weather changes after enemy move, so only they get the chance to do that, not yours.
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Re: Foul weather prevents AA guns from operating

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thanks for clarity
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Re: Foul weather prevents AA guns from operating

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yes there should be a small change with the weather.
your AA Guns should be able to attack the enemy aircrafts when you have bad weather, at some scenarios its like, oh the enemy can bomb and return without loses if you dont cover all your units with fighters or AA guns.
Like in the moskow scenario, half the time you cant use your airforce (and get the hint in the briefing you shouldn´t use them) but the sowiet airforce come in bomb and attack, is safe from the aa guns in the next turn and can restock for the next attack. Weather changes later in the scenario every 2 turn, when i remember correctly,
you should be able to attack them, especially if you have the Deadly AA trait, maybe with a less accuraty
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Re: Foul weather prevents AA guns from operating

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Wolfenguard wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 3:26 pm yes there should be a small change with the weather.
your AA Guns should be able to attack the enemy aircrafts when you have bad weather, at some scenarios its like, oh the enemy can bomb and return without loses if you dont cover all your units with fighters or AA guns.
Like in the moskow scenario, half the time you cant use your airforce (and get the hint in the briefing you shouldn´t use them) but the sowiet airforce come in bomb and attack, is safe from the aa guns in the next turn and can restock for the next attack. Weather changes later in the scenario every 2 turn, when i remember correctly,
you should be able to attack them, especially if you have the Deadly AA trait, maybe with a less accuraty
Weather change is completely random. There is a chance of each kind of weather for this whole scenario, and that's all.
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Re: Foul weather prevents AA guns from operating

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At times I've considered laughing at the weather predictions turning it off - the weather - and adding core slots so I have 50 planes ...
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Re: Foul weather prevents AA guns from operating

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Wolfenguard wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 3:26 pm yes there should be a small change with the weather.
your AA Guns should be able to attack the enemy aircrafts when you have bad weather, at some scenarios its like, oh the enemy can bomb and return without loses if you dont cover all your units with fighters or AA guns.
Like in the moskow scenario, half the time you cant use your airforce (and get the hint in the briefing you shouldn´t use them) but the sowiet airforce come in bomb and attack, is safe from the aa guns in the next turn and can restock for the next attack. Weather changes later in the scenario every 2 turn, when i remember correctly,
you should be able to attack them, especially if you have the Deadly AA trait, maybe with a less accuraty
Bab Weather_ Rainy Weather Should only affect Aircraft!... not the "AA-Guns". Me-Thinks... They-Think'... Maybe???... that their reasoning is that when its "Raining"... your "Gun-Powder" gets "Wet" and so now the ignition of the 'Gun-Powder' is "No-longer" possible!... thereby rendering you "AA-Guns"... inoperable???.
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Re: Foul weather prevents AA guns from operating

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Retributarr wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 12:20 pm
Wolfenguard wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 3:26 pm yes there should be a small change with the weather.
your AA Guns should be able to attack the enemy aircrafts when you have bad weather, at some scenarios its like, oh the enemy can bomb and return without loses if you dont cover all your units with fighters or AA guns.
Like in the moskow scenario, half the time you cant use your airforce (and get the hint in the briefing you shouldn´t use them) but the sowiet airforce come in bomb and attack, is safe from the aa guns in the next turn and can restock for the next attack. Weather changes later in the scenario every 2 turn, when i remember correctly,
you should be able to attack them, especially if you have the Deadly AA trait, maybe with a less accuraty
Bab Weather_ Rainy Weather Should only affect Aircraft!... not the "AA-Guns". Me-Thinks... They-Think'... Maybe???... that their reasoning is that when its "Raining"... your "Gun-Powder" gets "Wet" and so now the ignition of the 'Gun-Powder' is "No-longer" possible!... thereby rendering you "AA-Guns"... inoperable???.
i don´t think this was intentional. in bad weather all air-combat is disabled, including shooting at planes.

sers,
Thomas
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Re: Foul weather prevents AA guns from operating

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Retributarr wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 12:20 pm
Wolfenguard wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 3:26 pm yes there should be a small change with the weather.
your AA Guns should be able to attack the enemy aircrafts when you have bad weather, at some scenarios its like, oh the enemy can bomb and return without loses if you dont cover all your units with fighters or AA guns.
Like in the moskow scenario, half the time you cant use your airforce (and get the hint in the briefing you shouldn´t use them) but the sowiet airforce come in bomb and attack, is safe from the aa guns in the next turn and can restock for the next attack. Weather changes later in the scenario every 2 turn, when i remember correctly,
you should be able to attack them, especially if you have the Deadly AA trait, maybe with a less accuraty
Bab Weather_ Rainy Weather Should only affect Aircraft!... not the "AA-Guns". Me-Thinks... They-Think'... Maybe???... that their reasoning is that when its "Raining"... your "Gun-Powder" gets "Wet" and so now the ignition of the 'Gun-Powder' is "No-longer" possible!... thereby rendering you "AA-Guns"... inoperable???.
from the mechanic is more like, there are a lot of dark cloads and you cant see the enemy planes, no planes no target ;)
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Re: Foul weather prevents AA guns from operating

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Again, its just a buzz kill the enemy planes fly over bomb stuff etc. then wham its raining and you happen to have an aa gun and it happens to be close enough to where the planes are to engage them and then you can't. But its a great fog of war incident too so it adds I suppose to the intensity ... :P
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Re: Foul weather prevents AA guns from operating

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gunny wrote: Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:46 pm Again, its just a buzz kill the enemy planes fly over bomb stuff etc. then wham its raining and you happen to have an aa gun and it happens to be close enough to where the planes are to engage them and then you can't. But its a great fog of war incident too so it adds I suppose to the intensity ... :P
I understand what you mean as I have experienced it too, but you do understand why/how that happens, right? It's the bad luck of going first each turn.

Example:

TURN 1 (sunny and dry)

You attack.

AI attacks, including bombers attacks. No problem, you think, because they've exposed themselves. Now, on my next turn, I'm going to tear them apart. Oh, but wait...

TURN 2 (raining cats and dogs)

...you can't. Your aircraft are grounded and your Experten are staying dry at the airfield playing either Doppelkopf or Skat.

AI's turn: their aircraft get away.

TURN 3 (Sunny and dry)

...repeat of the last two turns.

So, this has happened to me and therefore I can understand your frustration, but it is a byproduct of bad luck and having gone first in each turn. Even in PC1 you go first on most maps because you hold the initiative. Your only counter is to use your AA and Fighters to cover your vulnerable ground units at the end of the turn.
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Re: Foul weather prevents AA guns from operating

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Makes sense good tactics ... yeah there is really no fog of war its just the turns ..
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Re: Foul weather prevents AA guns from operating

Post by DefiantXYX »

The most annoying thing about bad weather is if you already got the victory and you start to play lazy and somehow an ai units gets to your airfield and all your planes are crushing down in the next turn because of bad weather.
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Re: Foul weather prevents AA guns from operating

Post by timberwolf15 »

yeah its happned to me
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