Tibetan Turmoil

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Re: Tibetan Turmoil

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Erinchin Lobsang Tayiji (PeterthePainter) has marched his Mongol horde into Samana to challenge Lobsang Gyatso (Fybyyn).

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Re: Tibetan Turmoil

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PeterThePainter wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:58 am Erinchin Lobsang Tayiji (PeterthePainter) has marched his Mongol horde into Samana to challenge Lobsang Gyatso (Fybyyn).

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Re: Tibetan Turmoil

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Ok Peter! let's fight!!!
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Re: Tibetan Turmoil

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Retainers

In any battle if either a CinC is killed in battle and they lose the battle, the tribe surrenders to the winning clan and becomes their retainer and they change their school to the new tribe’s school.


Gavin does this refer only to Retainer's CnCs ?
or to any CnC in any Battle ?

Urgent reply appreciated :?
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Re: Tibetan Turmoil

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KiwiWarlord wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 7:36 am Retainers

In any battle if either a CinC is killed in battle and they lose the battle, the tribe surrenders to the winning clan and becomes their retainer and they change their school to the new tribe’s school.


Gavin does this refer only to Retainer's CnCs ?
or to any CnC in any Battle ?

Urgent reply appreciated :?
Sorry Brian, it should read:-
In any battle if a CinC is killed in battle and their army lose the battle, the tribe surrenders to the winning clan and becomes their retainer, and they change their school to the new tribe’s school.

Conversely, if a CinC is killed in battle and their army win the battle ....they do not become the other players retainer.

I hope this makes it clear.
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Re: Tibetan Turmoil

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Those of you interested in this setting may want to keep an eye out for a copy of Armies of the Nineteenth Century: Central Asia and the Himalayan Kingdoms by Ian Heath
MP Replays:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjUQy6dEqR53NwoGgjxixLg

Pike and Shot-Sengoku Jidai Crossover Mod:
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Middle Earth mod:
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Re: Tibetan Turmoil

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SnuggleBunnies wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 7:27 pm Those of you interested in this setting may want to keep an eye out for a copy of Armies of the Nineteenth Century: Central Asia and the Himalayan Kingdoms by Ian Heath
Thanks Snuggles I'll check it out.
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Re: Tibetan Turmoil

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gort7078 Tibetian Lord has invaded AlexDetrojan Tribal Rebels from Panipat to QarQun!
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Re: Tibetan Turmoil

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gort7078 wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 1:34 pm gort7078 Tibetian Lord has invaded AlexDetrojan Tribal Rebels from Panipat to QarQun!
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Re: Tibetan Turmoil

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The first results are in
The Prince of Tsang (GDod)is pleased to report his rightful claim to all provinces starting with Ts. The Tibetan Lord Norbu Zangpo ( Gort 7078 ) has ceded his province of Tsaparang, after his defeat at the hand of the Prince of Tsang's army advancing from Mangyul.

After three turns, Lord Norbu Zangpo's force fled in disarray from the lightening charges of Tsang mounted lancers and matchlock men all along the line, ending the day with 40% without loss. Thanks to Don for returning a quick result despite his extremely unfortunate luck.
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As a member of the Kagyu school, we now wish to lay claim to
  • Gartok
  • Purig
  • Lhasa

Brian can you roll the dice (10% chance) for each province on our behalf and post the result.
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Re: Tibetan Turmoil

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Sengge Choros ( KiwiWarlord ) marches from Tian Shan Province and invades Norbu Zangpo's ( Gort7078 ) Home Province of Panipat. After a frantic search for 5 units of their army the becalmed Tibetans were being shot to pieces until the missing Tibetans arrived ( move 6 or 7 ) they then sprang into action but far too late and suffered a crushing Defeat.

Sengge Choros ( KiwiWarlord ) 0 % Norbu Zangpo ( Gort7078 ) 45 %

The forces of both sides are regrouping for the assault on the Fortress.
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Re: Tibetan Turmoil

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The Prince of Tsang (GDod) lays claim to the province of Tian Shan, which is being held illegally by Sengge Choros (KiwiWarlord), the Mongolian Prince of the Dzungar.

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Re: Tibetan Turmoil

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GDod wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 5:53 am The first results are in
As a member of the Kagyu school, we now wish to lay claim to
  • Gartok
  • Purig
  • Lhasa
Brian can you roll the dice (10% chance) for each province on our behalf and post the result.
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Just found my average dice and set up my dice tower on a gaming table
Have taken photos of each roll & will email them to you.
Results
Gartok 52%
Purig 91%
Lhasa 12%
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Re: Tibetan Turmoil

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GDod wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 7:22 am Attacking a Home Province (a two phase battle process)
  • First phase is an open battle, large armies, wide map, agricultural
If the defender loses then the siege of the fortress begins
  • This is an open battle (forts are pointless), small armies, narrow map, hilly terrain
After playing a few of these I put forward the suggestion the the Challenger sets up the battle for the Province as it is an open Battle.
The Fortress Defender sets up the Challenge for the Fortress Assault as this will let the Attacker move his troops first.

I have tried all sorts of manipulation of the Game Setup but cannot get Player 1, who sets up the game, to move first.
As we have dropped the Attack/Defend setup ( and rightly so ) giving the attacking player the first move in the game seems right.
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Re: Tibetan Turmoil

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KiwiWarlord wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2023 7:27 am Just found my average dice and set up my dice tower on a gaming table
Have taken photos of each roll & will email them to you.
Results
Gartok 52%
Purig 91%
Lhasa 12%
That's a shame Brian...not change to allegiances then, though 12% was very close!
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Re: Tibetan Turmoil

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GDod wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2023 9:05 am
KiwiWarlord wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2023 7:27 am Just found my average dice and set up my dice tower on a gaming table
Have taken photos of each roll & will email them to you.
Results
Gartok 52%
Purig 91%
Lhasa 12%
That's a shame Brian...not change to allegiances then, though 12% was very close!
Very close. Nearly a case of he who lives by the Kagyu falls by the Kagyu!
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Re: Tibetan Turmoil

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PeterThePainter wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2023 10:27 am Very close. Nearly a case of he who lives by the Kagyu falls by the Kagyu!
Huh! A Mongolian proverb no doubt. I'd agree with you but then we would both be wrong!
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Re: Tibetan Turmoil

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KiwiWarlord wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2023 9:02 am
GDod wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 7:22 am Attacking a Home Province (a two phase battle process)
  • First phase is an open battle, large armies, wide map, agricultural
If the defender loses then the siege of the fortress begins
  • This is an open battle (forts are pointless), small armies, narrow map, hilly terrain
After playing a few of these I put forward the suggestion the the Challenger sets up the battle for the Province as it is an open Battle.
The Fortress Defender sets up the Challenge for the Fortress Assault as this will let the Attacker move his troops first.

I have tried all sorts of manipulation of the Game Setup but cannot get Player 1, who sets up the game, to move first.
As we have dropped the Attack/Defend setup ( and rightly so ) giving the attacking player the first move in the game seems right.
Yes, I think makes a lot of sense.
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Re: Tibetan Turmoil

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ahuyton wrote: Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:05 am
KiwiWarlord wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2023 9:02 am
GDod wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 7:22 am Attacking a Home Province (a two phase battle process)
  • First phase is an open battle, large armies, wide map, agricultural
If the defender loses then the siege of the fortress begins
  • This is an open battle (forts are pointless), small armies, narrow map, hilly terrain
After playing a few of these I put forward the suggestion the the Challenger sets up the battle for the Province as it is an open Battle.
The Fortress Defender sets up the Challenge for the Fortress Assault as this will let the Attacker move his troops first.

I have tried all sorts of manipulation of the Game Setup but cannot get Player 1, who sets up the game, to move first.
As we have dropped the Attack/Defend setup ( and rightly so ) giving the attacking player the first move in the game seems right.
Yes, I think makes a lot of sense.
The Rules have been updated as recommended by Alan and Brian.
  • Challenger sets up the Phase 1 battle for the Home Province
  • Defender sets up Phase 2 battle for Home Province
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Re: Tibetan Turmoil

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Challenge Posted for Panipat , Home Province of Norbu Zangpo ( Gort 7078 )

Sengge Choros ( KiwiWarlord ) marches from Tian Shan Province and invades Norbu Zangpo's ( Gort7078 ) Home Province of Panipat. After a frantic search for 5 units of their army the becalmed Tibetans were being shot to pieces until the missing Tibetans arrived ( move 6 or 7 ) they then sprang into action but far too late and suffered a crushing Defeat.

The forces of both sides are regrouping for the assault on the Fortress.

Fortress Captured
Sengge Choros ( KiwiWarlord ) 0 % Norbu Zangpo ( Gort7078 ) 48 %

Norbu Zangpo is now a welcome Retainer of Sengge Choros

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