1943's First Scenario
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1943's First Scenario
If anyone is curious, the inspiration for this scenario stems from this historical event:
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Im still surious what the "narrative" mission object means. You cant do anything with those units, ok move them around a little but uhm do i miss something ?
Oh and whats the story behind "Franz"
Oh and whats the story behind "Franz"
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VirgilInTheSKY
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Narrative is narrative. Those units are there in the same meaning as what's in the first scenario in AO 41. They are there to represent that you have some units that can't participate in that battle, as already stated in briefing.
As for "Franz"...well, search for that name yourself.
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Really fun scenario I must say. It wasn't hard, but quite unique in it's own right with all the setup on the map. Just proves that sometimes difficulty does not have to be high to make the campaign enjoyable. Those small scale more puzzle-like missions are always welcome in some small numbers to break the pace.
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Wow, did you have a bad day, mate ?VirgilInTheSKY wrote: ↑Fri May 27, 2022 11:11 am Narrative is narrative. Those units are there in the same meaning as what's in the first scenario in AO 41. They are there to represent that you have some units that can't participate in that battle, as already stated in briefing.
As for "Franz"...well, search for that name yourself.
narrative is narrative, yes. But you may have noticed that there are no translations yet. And having a "narrative" mission object that says "ignore these units" could mean "if you touch them they will assist you, but you will miss some cool story" aswell...
i just asked if i missed something about that goal...
And yes i googled "Franz". After 10 minutes i found Franz Staudegger, a "lesser know tank commander during the battle of Kursk". Im pretty sure i wasnt faster than a little sentence like "Hey Bee, you should google "Franz Staudegger" its a nice story from the battle of kursk" would have been....
so thx fpr your friendly answer -.-
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VirgilInTheSKY
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Well, if you misunderstood the narrative objective due to the missing localization in non-English version, then I apologize since I don't know that. It is quite clear that those units don't get any fuel or ammo from the start, and is encircled by non-aggressive enemies just like in AO41 Zagreb and AO 42 Rzhev, so they are meant to be there just to give the atmosphere.Bee1976 wrote: ↑Fri May 27, 2022 2:48 pmWow, did you have a bad day, mate ?VirgilInTheSKY wrote: ↑Fri May 27, 2022 11:11 am Narrative is narrative. Those units are there in the same meaning as what's in the first scenario in AO 41. They are there to represent that you have some units that can't participate in that battle, as already stated in briefing.
As for "Franz"...well, search for that name yourself.
narrative is narrative, yes. But you may have noticed that there are no translations yet. And having a "narrative" mission object that says "ignore these units" could mean "if you touch them they will assist you, but you will miss some cool story" aswell...
i just asked if i missed something about that goal...
And yes i googled "Franz". After 10 minutes i found Franz Staudegger, a "lesser know tank commander during the battle of Kursk". Im pretty sure i wasnt faster than a little sentence like "Hey Bee, you should google "Franz Staudegger" its a nice story from the battle of kursk" would have been....
so thx fpr your friendly answer -.-
As for the second one, it's simply because I had also forgot about the exact name. And it was Kerensky himself who said he wanted players wondering about this "Franz" and trying to google themselves, so I don't think it's a good idea to simply give the answer.
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np dude, im having a real bad day myself - so im sorry aswell.
but well, its time for operation roland, this will hopefully make may day way better
but well, its time for operation roland, this will hopefully make may day way better
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Re: 1943's First Scenario
As usual the briefings are loaded with fluff and has precious little in the way of... briefing.
Also, what is a "narrative objective"? It's not explained anywhere. I also don't understand what "Ignore forces" might entail.
Not a good start.
Also, what is a "narrative objective"? It's not explained anywhere. I also don't understand what "Ignore forces" might entail.
Not a good start.
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I found the "narrative objective" a little confusing at first, because it is sort of similar to the "historical objective" goals for stalingrad, which you are actually supposed to disobey.
So I was thinking maybe I am supposed to find some way to rescue them, or to get down there for a hidden cache or something, but that doesnt seem to be the case
So I was thinking maybe I am supposed to find some way to rescue them, or to get down there for a hidden cache or something, but that doesnt seem to be the case
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Try to move them into the battle. . .nexusno2000 wrote: ↑Fri May 27, 2022 4:38 pm . . . I also don't understand what "Ignore forces" might entail.
There comes a time on every project when it is time to shoot the engineer and ship the damn thing.
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There are several lines in the briefing explaining there are no supplies to support those units, and the following scenario also continues to speak of the supply situation.
The historical situation is that after Stalingrad and the second Soviet Winter Offensive, Army Group South was in real bad shape. Manstein needed new supplies and new reinforcements to stop the Soviets, existing stockpiles were completely exhausted.
Gameplay mechanically, we paralyze the units so player who do not import a CORE have a large and experienced army available to them for the remainder of the campaign. Even through the first scenario is small with only a small active force involved.
The historical situation is that after Stalingrad and the second Soviet Winter Offensive, Army Group South was in real bad shape. Manstein needed new supplies and new reinforcements to stop the Soviets, existing stockpiles were completely exhausted.
Gameplay mechanically, we paralyze the units so player who do not import a CORE have a large and experienced army available to them for the remainder of the campaign. Even through the first scenario is small with only a small active force involved.
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As for Franz... Well after we had Fritz from Yugoslavia, now we have this historical event present:
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amazing!



