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Rommel's Saga

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Hi PzC's fellas !

My name Guamokolatokint and I'm a Yrfin's PzC friend .
I have a two news for yours:
- Bad news: Yrfin leave a PzC Design Forum and his Topic was killed by Enemy :( As I know, his a busy with Napoleon's Wars atm.
- Good news: He give me permission to continue his Rommel's Saga (all materials and ideas)
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Cya. To be continued...
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Re: Rommel's Saga Reborn

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Re: Rommel's Saga Reborn

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1.
OK.
Yrfin's idea about Germany Battallion's Arty for 7th Panzer Division.

Yrfin wrote:
" One more thing...
About Battallions Artillery in Germany Pz.Div and Inf.Div(m):
New Unit: (Exclusive for German ONLY):
- Light Infantry Gun (7.5 leIG18) : no upgrade, Move = 2, Range = 2.

So we have a:
2 Inf.Rgt x 6 + 2 + 4 = 18 leIG in 7th Pz.Div 2x[9]
2 Inf.Rgt x 8 + 4 = 20 leIG in 2nd Inf.Div (m) 2x[10]

For simplyfy, we are got a 2 additional Battallions Artillery Units (7.5 leIG max Str [10]) in 7th Panzer Division and 2nd Inf.Div (m). Default Transport - Krupp Kp69."
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Re: Rommel's Saga Reborn

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So, new 7th Panzer (Rommel's) Division in position:
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Re: Rommel's Saga Reborn

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2.
French 5th Motorized Division (Division d’Infanterie Motorisee)

3 Infanterie Rgt (Regiment d’Infanterie) 88 ,39,129 Inf.Rgt, each:
- 3 x Inf.Btl (Bataillon d’Infanterie),- Compagnie d’Engins: 2x25-mm AT. Its integrate to Division Unit: 3 Rgt x 3 Btl x 2 = [12]
- Compagnie Regimentaire d’Engins: - 2 AT.Sec (Sections de canons de antichar), each 3 25-mm Integrate to Division Unit:= [6] x 3 rgt = [18], down to [12];

Recon.Btl (Groupe de Reconnaissance de Division d'Infanterie GRDI)
- 1.R.Sqd (Escadron de Decouverte): AMD Panhard 178 - 12 pcs [6]
- 2.R.Sqd (Escadron de Reconnaissance): AMC modele 1928 Schneider-Kegresse P16 - 20 pcs [10]
- 2 Mtc.Sqd (Escadron de fusiliers motocyclistes): each 40 motocycle = [8]

11.Light Art.Rgt (Regiment d’Artillerie Divisionnaire):
- 3 x Art.Btl, each: 3 x 4 75-mm = 3 x [12];
211.Heavy Art.Rgt (Regiment d’Artillerie Lourde Divisionnaire):
- Art.Btl : 3 x 4 105-mm = [12];
- Art.Btl : 3 x 4 155-mm = [12];

Divisionnaire Units:
AT.Cie (Compagnie Divisionnaire Anti-chars): 12 25-mm AT [12];
AT.Bie (Batterie Divisionnaire Anti-chars): 8 47-mm AT [8];
AA.Bie (Batterie de Defense Anti Aerien): 6 25-mm AA [6];
Pnr.Btl (3 x Compagnie Divisionnaire de Pionniers/Sapeurs Mineurs) = [12]
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Re: Rommel's Saga Reborn

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3.
Infantry divisions in the French Army fell into three "series": active, A and B. Series A included higher-quality reserve units. Most of active units had 2/3 of their authorized strength in peace time. At mobilization, all active units were to be brought up to full strength with designated reserve units. Series A units would be created from both active and reserve personals while series B units would only have a limited active component, around 20%.

The divisions were also designated by "type", of which there were Northeast, Overseas and Mountain. The type designation determined numbers and kinds of equipment and weapons allocation.

Standart structure/stuff for DI (Infantry Division):

3 Infanterie Rgt (Regiment d’Infanterie), each:
- 3 x Inf.Btl (Bataillon d’Infanterie) 3x [12] Units

Groupe de Reconnaissance de Division d'Infanterie GRDI:
- Escadron de fusiliers motocyclistes [4]
- Escadron à cheval [4]

Light Art.Rgt (Regiment d’Artillerie Divisionnaire):
- 3 x Art.Btl, each: 3 x 4 75-mm = 3 x [12];

Heavy Art.Rgt (Regiment d’Artillerie Lourde Divisionnaire):
- Art.Btl : 3 x 4 105-mm = [12];
- Art.Btl : 3 x 4 155-mm = [12];

Divisionnaire Units:
AT.Cie (Compagnie Divisionnaire Anti-chars): 12 25-mm AT [12];
AT.Bie (Batterie Divisionnaire Anti-chars): 8 47-mm AT [8];
AA.Bie (Batterie de Defense Anti Aerien): 6 25-mm AA [6];
Pnr.Btl (3 x Compagnie Divisionnaire de Pionniers/Sapeurs Mineurs) = [12]

LMG 374
MG 176
60-mm mortir 29
81-mm mortir 24 = 3 Rgt x 8
25-mm AT 52 = 3 Rgt x [12]+ GRDI [2+2] + CieDAC [12]
47-mm AT 8 [8]
75-mm Cannon 36 = 3 x [12]
105-mm Howitzer 12 [12]
155-mm Howitzer 12 [12]
25-mm AA 6 [6]
Truck/ Mtc/ Byce/ Horse 546/284/625/4867

And finaly about French Infantry in 1940 vs 7th Pz Division:

4th North African Infantry Division (4e DINA).
At Onhaye fight vs 7th Pz Div. Type Northeast division. 10 May still missing 20% personnel. Captured 20 May. North African survivors were merged into 1st DLINA. Final at La Capelle. Sub: XI Corps of 9A

13th Zouaves Regiment
23rd Algerian Tirailleurs Regiment
25th Algerian Tirailleurs Regiment
94th Reconnaissance Battalion
33rd Colonial Artillery Regiment
233rd Colonial Artillery Regiment

Typical African's Infantry Division have a only 1 Arty Regiment and No Divisionnaire Units like AT and AA Cie.

So,
9x Inf.Btl (Afr) 9x[12]
3x 25-mm AT 3x[12]
2x75-mm Cannon 2x[12]
1x155-mm Howitzer 1x[12]
1xEscadron de fusiliers motocyclistes [4]
1xEscadron à cheval [4]
Total: 17 units

Personel - local North African citizents.
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Re: Rommel's Saga Reborn

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4.
Next Post will be about Belgian Inf, at least Chasseurs Ardennais
Belgian VII Corps - 1th and 2nd Chasseurs Ardennais Div- (at Chabrehez and Houx vs. 7th Pz Div)
Erwin Rommel wrote:
They're not humans, they're green wolves.
Original text (German)
Das sind keine Männer, sondern grüne Wölfe.

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9 May 1940 Britain, together with Belgium, imposed military and economic sanctions against Germany.
10 May 1940 Germany start operation "Gelb".
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Re: Rommel's Saga Reborn

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4.1
The origin of thes tarted with a concept Chasseurs Ardennais in order to protect against a German attack. They were envisaged as a counterpart to the French Chasseurs Alpins light infantry,, but were intended to serve as bicycle infantry with responsibility for guarding the Belgian frontier in the Ardennes. Within the context of military history, the French language term chasseur (literally "hunter") usually denotes light or mounted infantry.

1th Div Chasseurs Ardennais about 9200 personal.

1st, 2nd and 3rd Régiment des 1th Div Chasseurs Ardennais they were located in Arlon, Bastogne and Vielsalm.
Each Rgt was structured with :
- HQ,
- 3 Inf battalions of 3 companies (220) of mixed cyclists (3 packs of riflemen (46) and 2-3 MG),
- motorcycle company each with 3 motorbike squadrons, and 1 squadron with 3xT.15 (Vickers 6t) tanks;
- AT company with 4x4xT.13 AT;

In sector attack of German XV AK (m) (5th and 7th PzD):

- 3th Rgt (1th Div Chasseurs Ardennais):
PzC Units: 3xInf.Btl (Bicycle Movement) - 3 Units [10], Mtc.Cie - 1 Unit [5], 3 xT.15 = 3 pcs - 1 Unit [2], 4x4xT.13 AT=16 pcs - 2 Units x [8]
- 2th Btl, 5th Rgt (2th Div Chasseurs Ardennais): 1xInf.Btl (Foot Movement) -1 Unit [10] .
Total: 8 Units

Bicycle Transport:
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PS. Next Post will be about Belgian Armor/AT&Cavalery.
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Re: Rommel's Saga Reborn

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Rommel's Saga Episode I : Belgian's Phantom Menace.
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Re: Rommel's Saga Reborn

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All Belgian tanks, self-propelled guns, armored vehicles, were called the same and "modest": Auto Blinde or Pantserwagen, which means just an armored vehicle.

1. Armored vehicle T.15. This is a variant of the Vickers (6t) British export small tank. Total 42 pcs were delivered to the Belgian army (in two Cavalry divisions 2x3 Rgt x6 pcs = 36 pcs and in two Chasseurs Ardennais Divs: 2x3 pcs = 6 pcs). Unlike most other variants of this tank, the Belgian were armed with 13.2 mm machine guns and a conical tower.

(Switch to Recon Mode, Type of Movement #22 (Light Track), Unit MaxStr [3], noreplace trait in Mod ).

2. The most modern tank was the French tank Renault ACG-1 (in the French army - AMC35). Belgian Army ordered 25 such tanks in France, and, unlike French vehicles on they were supposed to be equipped with a 47 mm Canon SA de 47 mm Mle gun. 35. Although this tank gun is known as the French, it is made on the basis of the Belgian AT 47-mm gun. Only 15 were made in France, but not all of them fell into Belgium. In battles took participation of only 8 tanks. In the Belgian army, these tanks were called heavy armored vehicles (Auto Blindé Lourd or Zware Pantserwagen), unverified information is found that later their renamed Auto Blindees de Corps de Cavalerie, ABCC. All of them entered service with a separate armored squadron of the cavalry corps (Escadron d'Auto Blindés du Corps de Cavelerie).

(Switch to Recon Mode, Type of Movement #22 (Light Track), Unit MaxStr [4], noreplace trait in Mod).
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Active after 20 May 1940.
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Re: Rommel's Saga Reborn

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Belgian AT SP

1. 47-mm AT SP Т.13 (Canon automoteur 47 mm T.13).
Produced about 230 до 294 pcs. In total, there were 242 tank fighters in the mobilized units.

Typical organization Sqd Т.13:
• HQ (2xТ.13);
• 3 platoon, each 3 Т.13, 2+3х3=11. Really Max Str [12]
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- 1-4 and 7-11th Inf.Div - 9 Sqr of Т.13,

- 2 Cav.Div - 3 Rgt x 6 pcs =18 each, 3x [6]

- 1th ArdennCh.Div - 4 Sqd (4х [12] =48).

- 2 Border Cyclists Battalion and Guides Regiment - each have a Sqd [12].

2. Carden Loyd Mk. VI with 47-mm.(6 pcs - Str [6]).
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Re: Rommel's Saga Reborn

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Belgian Cavalry 1940

Belgium is the only country in which the cavalry did not use horses. It was far from the complete motorization of the Belgian army, horse traction was still widely used in artillery, but horses were not supposed in cavalry regiments and divisions around the state. The Belgians have completely changed their horses to motorcycles, bicycles or cars.

Units considered to be ‘cavalry’ are a mix of Lancers, Carabiners, Guides (recon), Cyclists, and Armor. They act in support of Infantry and Artillery. Most of the regiments of the cavalry are motorized.

In Belgian Army was a two Cavalry Divisions:

1st Cavalry Division:
- 2, 3th Regiment de Lanciers (Mtc).
- 1th Gidsen Regiment (recon) (Mtc)
- 1, 3th Regiment de Carabiniers cyclistes (Bi)

2st Cavalry Division:
- 1th Lansiers Regiment (Mtc).
- 1, 2th Chasseurs a Cheval Regiment (Mtc)
- 2, 4th Regiment de Carabiniers (cyclistes):

In each Division:
- 3 Mtc.Rgt, each: 2 Mtc.Btl
- 2 Bi.Rgt, each: 2 Bi.Btl, AT.Cie : 8x47-mm AT
- Arm.Cie: 4xT13, 9xT15;
- Art.Rgt: 2 Btl each 12x75-mm;
- Eng.Btl;
- AT.Cie: 10xT13 (?).

So, in each Division:
- 6 x Mtc.Btl (4x47-mm AT, 8 MG):
- 4 x Bi.Btl (12xMG)
- Art.Rgt (2x 12 75-mm)
- Eng.Btl;
- Arm.Cie: 4xT13 (in real 6), 9xT15 (in real 6)
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Next Post about Belgian Cavalry on PzC Unit scale Map (Movements Transport (sic !),Type of Movements for "cavalry" and so on.
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Re: Rommel's Saga Reborn

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guamokolatokint wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 3:55 pm Belgian Cavalry 1940

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The photo shows Dutch Cavalry not Belgian

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Re: Rommel's Saga Reborn

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phcas wrote: Wed Apr 13, 2022 4:48 am
guamokolatokint wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 3:55 pm Belgian Cavalry 1940

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The photo shows Dutch Cavalry not Belgian
Greetings
Tnx for attention :)
Maybe this one ?
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Re: Rommel's Saga Reborn

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Belgian's towed AT changed:
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Re: Rommel's Saga Reborn

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OK Lets see Belgian Cavalry Division in PzC ...
WOW ! Cavalery without Horses :)
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