Blood and Gold (Americas)

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What army are you most looking forward to forward to when Blood and Gold comes out?

Poll ended at Sat Aug 01, 2009 6:54 pm

aztecs
16
30%
conquistadores
8
15%
huaxtecs
4
8%
tarascans/ tlaxcaltecs
4
8%
zapotecs/zapotecs
0
No votes
maya/ inca
5
9%
north american plains indians
14
26%
chichemics
2
4%
 
Total votes: 53

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Re: Blood and Gold (Americas)

Post by Huaxtec15mm »

flamingpig0 wrote:
Huaxtec15mm wrote: They practised phallic worship, body tattooing, peirced both ears and noses, and shaved the front, top and sides of their heads! To add to this, they practised the art of head elongation and they often filed their teeth into razor like blades and painted them black. This naturally, gave them an alltogether alien like appearance!
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I take it you have never seen the 'Expoited' in concert.

Only once, and its been about 30 years! :D


PS. About time somebody gave the Chichemics a vote!
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Re: 15mm Huaxtecs (again)

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Huaxtec15mm wrote:Plenty of concept pictures to wet your appetite here:
http://wargamesfactory.lefora.com/2009/ ... ate/page1/
Proportions and anatomy in those concepts seems completely off. Either that or those are child warriors. Otherwise their heads are massive compared to their bodies. A body from the neck down should be 6, 7 heads tall for an adult. Those concepts look around 3, 4 heads tall. Were they all dwarves?
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Post by stenic »

Oompa Loompas ?
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Post by carlos »

Cool army concept though! I'd vote for Tupi if possible.
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Post by Huaxtec15mm »

Got the rules and lists for FoGR today. Aztecs look fun!
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Post by Kenshin »

I'm looking forward to seeing Eurekas Huaxtecs in 15mm! I hope they make the BaG book.
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Post by Nebelwerfer41 »

So, will there be alternate lists for the major different North American indigens? I don't understand why every South/Central American subculture has been broken out by family group, but all of North America gets lumped together. For instance, there are big differences between Navajo and Souix.
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Post by rbodleyscott »

Nebelwerfer41 wrote:So, will there be alternate lists for the major different North American indigens? I don't understand why every South/Central American subculture has been broken out by family group, but all of North America gets lumped together. For instance, there are big differences between Navajo and Souix.
The above poll is unofficial and represents only a small fraction of the actual contents of Blood and Gold.

In fact Blood and Gold contains the following North American lists:

CHICHIMEC
PUEBLO CULTURE
MOUND-BUILDER CULTURE
SOUTH-EASTERN WOODLAND CULTURE
TIMUCUAN
EASTERN WOODLAND CULTURE
PLAINS CULTURE
PACIFIC NORTH-WEST CULTURE
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Post by philqw78 »

rbodleyscott wrote:
MOUND-BUILDER CULTURE
SOUTH-EASTERN WOODLAND CULTURE
EASTERN WOODLAND CULTURE
PACIFIC NORTH-WEST CULTURE
Its only since the time span of the rules ended that culture has disappeared from North America.

:wink:
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Post by Nebelwerfer41 »

rbodleyscott wrote:
Nebelwerfer41 wrote:So, will there be alternate lists for the major different North American indigens? I don't understand why every South/Central American subculture has been broken out by family group, but all of North America gets lumped together. For instance, there are big differences between Navajo and Souix.
The above poll is unofficial and represents only a small fraction of the actual contents of Blood and Gold.

In fact Blood and Gold contains the following North American lists:

CHICHIMEC
PUEBLO CULTURE
MOUND-BUILDER CULTURE
SOUTH-EASTERN WOODLAND CULTURE
TIMUCUAN
EASTERN WOODLAND CULTURE
PLAINS CULTURE
PACIFIC NORTH-WEST CULTURE
Good to know. Thanks for the clarification!
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Post by johno »

Your poll doesn't have a "None of the Above" option

I am unlikely to buy this particular volume, since it seems a bit light on actual Ancient armies, and the ones it does have aren't terribly interesting...

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Post by Huaxtec15mm »

johno wrote:Your poll doesn't have a "None of the Above" option

I am unlikely to buy this particular volume, since it seems a bit light on actual Ancient armies, and the ones it does have aren't terribly interesting...

johno
Arent terribly interesting! You obviously have not read about/ seen the Huaxtecs! :wink:
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Post by DaiSho »

Huaxtec15mm wrote:Arent terribly interesting! You obviously have not read about/ seen the Huaxtecs! :wink:
I have to admit to a certain concern about your fascination with the Huaxtecs.

And seeing I am one who indeed has seen pictures of Huaxtecs in all their... ahem... glory, I'm just wondering exactly what the 15mm in your nickname is in reference to :shock:
Viking (15mm)
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Palmyran (10mm - 15mm basing)
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Post by grahambriggs »

johno wrote:Your poll doesn't have a "None of the Above" option

I am unlikely to buy this particular volume, since it seems a bit light on actual Ancient armies, and the ones it does have aren't terribly interesting...

johno
Well it depends what you mean by ancient. Olmec starts 1150BC and many of the lists could have been earlier than they are but for lack of evidence of substantial armies. I guess whether you find them interesting or not is a personal thing. Personally I like the history, 'uniforms' and weapons systems.

They'll be interesting armies on the table top and stronger than they were in DBM, if not the supermen of 7th edition. Some will get MF with javelins as well as impact/melee weapons to reflect the atlatl. Not a great advantage but it is a free weapon.
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Post by johno »

Actually, Graham, it's entirely possible that the nightmare of list cheese they were under 7th is part of why I don't find them appealing.

However, despite their admittedly being colourful, I have never found the South American armies interesting, even in Renaissance rule sets, and that particular disinterest dates from well before 7th - probably when we were using 4th or 5th, and just trying out the new Gush Renaissance rules from WRG.

I do recall a joke from when the Aztec range first appeared on MiniFigs new releases list:

"What's an Aztec Clubman?" a customer asked me.

"A Mini Clubman with South American number plates", I answered...


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Post by Legionbuilder »

All of this talk has me interested in any Army
When is the book out in the US?
September sometime or is it November
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Post by MARVIN_THE_ARVN »

17 Nov, 2009 Amazon

10 Nov 2009 Amazon UK
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Post by LambertSimnel »

johno wrote: "What's an Aztec Clubman?"

johno
It's a Mexican night spot, dude.
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