No Support Fire from Arty ???

[timberwolf15]

How come when I have two entrenched infantry units and an arty unit in a hex next to them that the arty unit does not provide support fire ???

My AA guns flawlessly provide support fire but ONLY if a plane is attacking a ground unit not another airplane but this then IS what the manual states whereas what is stated in the manual regarding support fire via an arty unit seems to be dodgy at times ....

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Page 42 manual Artillery units are among the most useful forces available for
purchase in Panzer Corps 2. When defending, they can provide
support fire against enemies attacking friendly units next to them, killing
and suppressing many of the attackers before they can even fire a shot. On
the offensive, they can provide powerful attacks from long range, although
most of the damage they do is suppressive.

[dalfrede]

ArtSupport trait gives support fire against soft targets.
ATSupport train gives support fire against hard targets.
75mm-155mm Arty have ArtSupport trait.
150mm-210mm have ATSupport trait.

So 105mm Arty will not provide support fire against tanks.
And 170mm Arty will not provide support fire against infantry
150mm will provide support fire against both tanks and infantry.

[timberwolf15]

thanks I should have paid closer attention to the note in the manual: Most artillery pieces are designed to counter specific types of
enemy units, and thus will not be able to provide support fire against
all enemy attacks. Each artillery unit will have one or more traits to tell
you what support fire it can provide. attention to this note in the manual ...


So the 15 CM fsh Arty unit is the best arty unit to use it provides support fire for both soft and hard target attacks it is less powerful than the 21 and has less range but also has 2 fewer slot cost ...

[Wolfenguard]

i think it depends a little of your heros,
in the scw and ao missions i play with the beginning artys and the big arty from the both Caches, later i buy a 21cm and use it with a mortal attack hero, a slot hero and the 2 attack hero, the second usefull Arty is the wurfrahmen, which you get to trough a cache, here i use the female arty officer, a douple attack and mortal attack hero (if i get them) the wurfrahmen has a 1,5 attack so you can theoreticall shred infantery and tank units with the douple attack and the mortal attack

[timberwolf15]

i think it depends a little of your heros,
in the scw and ao missions i play with the beginning artys and the big arty from the both Caches, later i buy a 21cm and use it with a mortal attack hero, a slot hero and the 2 attack hero, the second usefull Arty is the wurfrahmen, which you get to trough a cache, here i use the female arty officer, a douple attack and mortal attack hero (if i get them) the wurfrahmen has a 1,5 attack so you can theoreticall shred infantery and tank units with the douple attack and the mortal attack

Yeah I had the double attack hero one time that was great then currently I got the hero that provides both soft and hard support at the same time which the 15 cfm provides so since I have this hero that does what the 15 cfm does I put it in a 21 arty thing that is the most powerful arty and this one unit provides soft and hard support woo hoo then when I got the zero slot hero since this arty takes up 6 slots !! I put this hero in this arty unit and WHAM !!!

[Bee1976]

Freewin Hero-Combo for a OS Wurmrahmen or that big 21cm (OS aswell) is
Overrun
Lethal
ZeroSlots

If you play with a 4th Hero aaa Elsa on the "Wurfrahmen" or for some hardcore counterbattery action on the 21 cm. Ignoreentrechment works fine aswell

Buuuuut thats quite boring to play. You will win every mission quite easy.

[PoorOldSpike]

Here's an example of a dual-support unit; the big 150mm Hummel will clobber enemy tanks AND infantry that are attacking its pals-

[timberwolf15]

Looks to me like the Hummel was just a taxi and nothing else hence the real life pic rather than assumptions made that it shot at tanks or infantry - what was that pipe used for to carry wallets.

[scorehouse]

zero slots, consolidator to 20 OS, double attack, then either fast deployment, lethal attack, or artillery support. or if playing defense where the Russians keep attacking until they run outta units. use this combo. artillery support, double support, expert support, to go with either zero slots, Elsa for xtra ammo, double attack or lethal attack. this is for the 21 cm monster. love to put these on a Karl