Heavy infantry unexpectedly not severely disordered when in melee with a unit standing in deep stream

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kraff
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Heavy infantry unexpectedly not severely disordered when in melee with a unit standing in deep stream

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I observed a following situation (attaching screenshots):

Two units: foot archers and dailami foot are occupying squares with deep stream and are in melee with huscarl heavy infantry. Dailamis are moderately disrupted, while the huscarls are severely disordered. I resolve melee phase between my foot archers and the huscarls, and my foot archers get fragmented and pushed back. Just after this action the huscarls are no longer severely disordered, even though they are still in melee against my Dailamis, who are still occupying square with deep stream. A couple of squares away, two more heavy infantry units are in melee with two of my light infantry, also occupying deep stream, and both heavy infantry units are severely disordered. Is this a bug?
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Re: Heavy infantry unexpectedly not severely disordered when in melee with a unit standing in deep stream

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kraff wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 8:00 pm I observed a following situation (attaching screenshots):

Two units: foot archers and dailami foot are occupying squares with deep stream and are in melee with huscarl heavy infantry. Dailamis are moderately disrupted, while the huscarls are severely disordered. I resolve melee phase between my foot archers and the huscarls, and my foot archers get fragmented and pushed back. Just after this action the huscarls are no longer severely disordered, even though they are still in melee against my Dailamis, who are still occupying square with deep stream. A couple of squares away, two more heavy infantry units are in melee with two of my light infantry, also occupying deep stream, and both heavy infantry units are severely disordered. Is this a bug?
It depends upon what exactly happened before the screenshots.

I would guess that the Huscarls charged the Light Archers first, thus becoming Severely Disordered as they were attacking an enemy unit in Deep Stream. Then, again I am guessing here, the Dailami charged the Huscarls while they were Severely Disordered. Therefore the Huscarls were attacking the Light Archers, but were counted as the defenders against the Dailami.

In the next melee the Light Archers fell back, therefore the Huscarls were no longer attacking into a Deep Stream, and therefore were no longer Severely Disordered.

That's all pure guesswork, but would explain your situation.
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Re: Heavy infantry unexpectedly not severely disordered when in melee with a unit standing in deep stream

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Paul59 wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 8:16 pm It depends upon what exactly happened before the screenshots.

I would guess that the Huscarls charged the Light Archers first, thus becoming Severely Disordered as they were attacking an enemy unit in Deep Stream. Then, again I am guessing here, the Dailami charged the Huscarls while they were Severely Disordered. Therefore the Huscarls were attacking the Light Archers, but were counted as the defenders against the Dailami.

In the next melee the Light Archers fell back, therefore the Huscarls were no longer attacking into a Deep Stream, and therefore were no longer Severely Disordered.

That's all pure guesswork, but would explain your situation.
Yes, I think that's exactly what happened. Thanks for the explanation.
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Re: Heavy infantry unexpectedly not severely disordered when in melee with a unit standing in deep stream

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Paul has it right.
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