MF with LF turing 90deg

Renier · Post by **Renier** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:25 pm

What will the formation look like if BG of 6xMF + 3xLF (Late Romans) turn 90deg?

Example 1:

MF.MF.MF
MF.MF.MF
LF. LF .LF

My question is where will the LF end up after turning 90deg?

Second question, what happens when that BG is charged in the flank?
Who turns?, where does the LF end up?

We had battle where a BG of 4xCav charged the above BG in the flak and had no idea who turns.
Thanks

TERRYFROMSPOKANE · Post by **TERRYFROMSPOKANE** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:50 pm

From p45: "When a mixed BG turns, its new front edge must, if possible, consist of the same base types as the old front edge." This doesn't deal directly with other ranks, but I take it to mean the whole formation should try to end up with base types in the same relative positions. This text covers a normal turn, not necessarily a turn to face a flank charge. I would be glad to hear from others if I have been doing this wrong.

From p56: "Bases contacted on a side ... edge are immediately turned 90 ... degrees." I think this is resolved on a base by base basis. If a LF base is contacted, it is the base that must turn to face.

Terry G.

Renier · Post by **Renier** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:48 am

But what happens when the MF and LF are contacted at the same time, example if the contact is directly 90%, thus on the side edge. Thus both the MF and LF are contacted at the same time?

hammy · Post by **hammy** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:06 am

Renier wrote:But what happens when the MF and LF are contacted at the same time, example if the contact is directly 90%, thus on the side edge. Thus both the MF and LF are contacted at the same time?

All contacted bases turn and in this case are placed one behind the other. I would always for some reason put the LF in the rear.

If you want to charge the flank of a mixed BG and fight the LF then only contact the LF at impact, that way there is no choice what turns.

shall · Post by **shall** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 7:39 am

I have seen Romans with LF surrounded by Pecheneg Light Horse.

They were rear hit in the rear by Pecheneg Light Horse to great effect - 6 dice vs 3 at impact - which took a base off. They didn't DISR as is oft the case. The LH bounced in the JAP. Romans moved forward to the PS went to the back again and were charged in the rear by another BG losign 2 bases over Impact and Melee but still no DISR, so they bounced.

Only time I have seen all 3 LF pinched from a 9 base BG with rear support - and IIRC the BG was still in tact at the end as well.

Si