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I'd beg to differ. In the American tradition, probably, yes, these names are iconic, but these are just military slang nicknames used by the American armed forces, the Japanese themselves never used them. That would look the same with giving Cold War-era Soviet vehicles their NATO codenames, it's just not authentic. There are plenty of nicknames, after all. The Germans called T-34/76 'Mickey Mouse', for example. Should this be in the game as well? I understand that these nicknames are very well-known, but when you buy these units for your campaign that's like playing from the Japanese perspective, and all these Zeros and Betties would look weird, don't you think?
You should reread the first post...
That's great, but does it change anything in what I've said? The game shouldn't focus only on the American perspective, even more, buying these units would be available only for the Japanese, who of course never called their units that way. Of course, there are trophies available, but it's technically impossible to make trophy units have different names to the 'basic' units and I don't think that we should break all the Japanese-perspective immersion to make it so.
A6M Type 0 is "Zeke", not "Zero", one mistake when you mention the nickname given by the allies to the Japanese aircrats. Wildcat is okay because they are referred that way by the side using and manufacturing them, but things can get complex for late war japanese aircraft in the same way it was for German vechicles. i.e. the Nakajima B6N is called "Jill" in allied reference, but also has its own official name "Tenzan" in Imperial Japanese Navy, so which one should be put in game? The Panzerkampfwagen VI Ausf. B is called "Königstiger/King Tiger" in allied reference but there is no such official German name, yet we see that name in game. The Brümmbär is called "StuPa" by Germans as abbreviation from "Sturmpanzer", yet there is no "StuPa" in game. There should be a principal, but should not be a "must".
Possible. Each carrier actually has a seperated entry for how many aircraft it can hold, so if they want to do something to it, they can. Check Panzer Corps2/Content/Data/Airfields.csv and you should be able to find what I mentioned.
no they are notjagfour wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:30 pm Mitsubishi J2M Raiden is a Jack.
Aichi E13A floatplane is a Jake.
Zeek is a Mitsubishi A6M type 0 hence Zero. I am fully aware of the term Zeek, but I haven't seen any game use Zeek. I like Zero better. It reminds me of the cream coloured aircraft. Zeeks remind me of the green coloured ones.
What the hell has European tanks got to do with this?
So, what should we use then — a codename (Zeke) or a nickname (Zero)? And why? What's the system? If there is nothing official in it, we could also use the own Japanese nickname "Reisen", basically meaning "Zero Fighter". You're just proposing to add unofficial nicknames into the game, where these planes would be bought by the Japanese side first and foremost, it just looks weird when you're a Japanese commander and have "Zeros" and "Jakes" under your command. As I've said before, let's name T-34/76 "Mickey Mouse", why not? Il-2 Shturmovik should be "Black Death" and U-2/Po-2 would be named "Sewing Machine", since that's a game mostly about German point of view. It just doesn't make sense. Nicknames are possible, for sure, but they should be at least national, from the nation's own perspective. If I'm not mistaken, BM-13 is "Katyusha" in the game, but not "Stalin's Organ" as the Germans used to call it.
i am not a military aircraft used by a specific country, and nobody that knows me calls me like this just like Japanese wouldn't call their planes like that
there is also a space in game where you can rename units so you can write jack jill and whatever there
