DLC39 - Saarbrucken - commendation points

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Vorskl
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DLC39 - Saarbrucken - commendation points

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The bonus objective says: Raid 2 french airports (so that planes in the east side of the map will crash). I raided the airports, the planes crashed. Then towards the end of the scenario, French re-gained one of the airports, so I lost a well deserved commendation point.
Now - is it a bug? If not, then the objective should say 'HOLD', not 'RAID'
adiekmann
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Re: DLC39 - Saarbrucken - commendation points

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Vorskl wrote: Fri Mar 19, 2021 4:06 am The bonus objective says: Raid 2 french airports (so that planes in the east side of the map will crash). I raided the airports, the planes crashed. Then towards the end of the scenario, French re-gained one of the airports, so I lost a well deserved commendation point.
Now - is it a bug? If not, then the objective should say 'HOLD', not 'RAID'
No, you do not lose the CD points. Some maps say you have to "hold Objective X" which means you must still be in possession of it at the end of the scenario. But many others you get rewarded the CD points right away, the instant you complete it. So if you lose it later, it doesn't matter. That is the case here.
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Re: DLC39 - Saarbrucken - commendation points

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adiekmann wrote: Fri Mar 19, 2021 7:32 am
Vorskl wrote: Fri Mar 19, 2021 4:06 am The bonus objective says: Raid 2 french airports (so that planes in the east side of the map will crash). I raided the airports, the planes crashed. Then towards the end of the scenario, French re-gained one of the airports, so I lost a well deserved commendation point.
Now - is it a bug? If not, then the objective should say 'HOLD', not 'RAID'
No, you do not lose the CD points. Some maps say you have to "hold Objective X" which means you must still be in possession of it at the end of the scenario. But many others you get rewarded the CD points right away, the instant you complete it. So if you lose it later, it doesn't matter. That is the case here.
SL please comment
Coz if that's mechanism is true, it materially changes the gameplay of some missions - once you raided, just pull back and defend your position
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Re: DLC39 - Saarbrucken - commendation points

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From: Axis Operations FAQ and Tips
Capture: The standard format, go on the attack, and grab all the terrain, and usually the mission will end the moment you capture and have ownership of every single Victory Hex.
Control/Hold: For defensive missions. It is not enough to have ownership of the required VH, you need to make sure to have that ownership satisfied on the very last turn of the scenario.
Raid: The new type, pretty exclusively used for bonus objectives only. This is satisfied on the spot the instant such a hex is occupied. Meaning you need to fight to the VH, take control of it, and then you are free to abandon it and fall back. This is important for hit and run type attacks, where such a location might be very deep behind enemy lines, and holding on to it in the face of approaching enemy reinforcements is not feasible because it is such a tenuous position.
There comes a time on every project when it is time to shoot the engineer and ship the damn thing.
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