confused by Shot

OldenTired · Post by **OldenTired** » Mon May 25, 2009 8:10 am

so.... javelins get a +1POA vs unprotected foot, but muskets get no POA?

are we relying on the Shot having more dice? because otherwise that aztec army is just going to sit there hurling javelins.

timmy1 · Post by **timmy1** » Mon May 25, 2009 8:19 am

I don't have the rules yet... however wild uninformed speculation is one of my specialisations.

From my understanding, the point of firearms was to provide the ability to punch through armour, especially handguns (as opposed to pistols). This is why armour eventually dies out along with the bow, I suspect that most if not all of the Spanish who fight the Aztecs will be armoured so that +1 POA for Jav will be irrelevant.

However, without the rules all the above is wild and uninformed speculation.

OldenTired · Post by **OldenTired** » Mon May 25, 2009 9:22 am

good point on the spanish, but here in new zealand we tend to play open comps.

there's every chance those aztecs could end up fighting the parliamentarians -> lots of unprotected muskets.

timmy1 · Post by **timmy1** » Mon May 25, 2009 10:10 am

Be just like DBR then, where the killer army is New Model Army in the West Indies. I can see it now 'Dave Clarke beats Pete Dalby to win 2010 IWF using Aztec swarm'.

rbodleyscott · Post by **rbodleyscott** » Mon May 25, 2009 5:44 pm

Don't just look at the POAs.

Troops shot at by javelins get +2 on their death roll as in FoG:AM.

Troops shot at by arquebuses or muskets don't.

Troops with javelins get 1 dice per 2 bases. Shot get 1 dice per base.

So if the Aztecs stand there shooting they can expect to suffer heavy casualties and are unlikely to win the exchange.

timmy1 · Post by **timmy1** » Mon May 25, 2009 5:57 pm

Richard

I would love to but my rules have not arrived as yet, just the Army Lists and QRS.

OldenTired · Post by **OldenTired** » Mon May 25, 2009 7:52 pm

rbodleyscott wrote:Don't just look at the POAs.

Troops shot at by javelins get +2 on their death roll as in FoG:AM.

Troops shot at by arquebuses or muskets don't.

Troops with javelins get 1 dice per 2 bases. Shot get 1 dice per base.

So if the Aztecs stand there shooting they can expect to suffer heavy casualties and are unlikely to win the exchange.

ahhhhh... i thought it couldn't be that simple. got the number of dice, but missed the +2deathroll.

rbodleyscott · Post by **rbodleyscott** » Wed May 27, 2009 1:09 pm

timmy1 wrote:Richard

I would love to but my rules have not arrived as yet, just the Army Lists and QRS.

You should perhaps e-mail slitherine regarding this. I am not directly involved in sending stuff to beta-testers.

timmy1 · Post by **timmy1** » Wed May 27, 2009 8:55 pm

Richard

Thanks for the suggestion. I did e-mail JD but no response so far.

marioslaz · Post by **marioslaz** » Sat May 30, 2009 3:56 pm

timmy1 wrote:Richard

Thanks for the suggestion. I did e-mail JD but no response so far.

I too emailed, because I didn't received rules at time expected. I received all the stuff within a few days.