Motorcycles in swamp

[Catacol]

Hello all

Have noticed some very odd combat results when light tanks early war attack german motorcycles in swamp. The tanks have better stats, the bikes are in the swamp....but the combat results are level at best and often in favour of the bikes. Happened to me twice now in multiplayer battles. Has anyone else noticed this?

[Koki_7777]

Swamp is a close terrain so it's obvious that recon bike with close assaault will have advantage over any tank!

[Edmon]

Hello all

Have noticed some very odd combat results when light tanks early war attack german motorcycles in swamp. The tanks have better stats, the bikes are in the swamp....but the combat results are level at best and often in favour of the bikes. Happened to me twice now in multiplayer battles. Has anyone else noticed this?

Motorbikers will get off their bikes and fight as footsoliders. The bikes are for transport.

Since a swamp is a close combat tile, a hard target that can't dismount, like a tank is going to be in serious trouble.

[Tassadar]

Hello all

Have noticed some very odd combat results when light tanks early war attack german motorcycles in swamp. The tanks have better stats, the bikes are in the swamp....but the combat results are level at best and often in favour of the bikes. Happened to me twice now in multiplayer battles. Has anyone else noticed this?

Motorbikers will get off their bikes and fight as footsoliders. The bikes are for transport.

Since a swamp is a close combat tile, a hard target that can't dismount, like a tank is going to be in serious trouble.

Exactly, the same was true for WWII cavalry aside from the occasional chase when the enemy started to flee. It would use horses as transport and infantry would then dismount, fighting as any other and also having access to the artillery towed by horses.

[Catacol]

Thanks all - I hadn't appreciated that the close combat value was used in swamps. Assumed it was open terrain operating at -4. My error for not checking. I've never thought of putting infantry into swamp hexes to avoid hard targets....I'll give it a try.

[Koki_7777]

Motorcycles are the most broken unit. Cost of 2 prestige is durty cheap, initiative is a way above of any infantry wich cost 2 or even 3 times more. I made experimen in Stalingrad scenario they exterminate infantry on defence, not to mention they have move of 8!
AI is so stupid and attack me in town, bikes shoot first and inflict 11,12 casualties every time. Not to mention you can made'em 5 stars in two scenarios. Try it out buy 6-8 bikes an see it for yourself