What figures to use for Late Teutonic "Crusader" k

flameberge · Post by **flameberge** » Sun May 24, 2009 2:45 pm

I'm thinking of building a Late Teutonic army and in the list you have the "brother" knights and the "crusader" vassal knights. Do you use the same figures for both types? I'm also thinking of making a Late Medieval German army instead and wondered if "Hundred Years War" figures would be appropriate.

ancientsgamer · Post by **ancientsgamer** » Sun May 24, 2009 7:39 pm

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I'm thinking of building a Late Teutonic army and in the list you have the "brother" knights and the "crusader" vassal knights. Do you use the same figures for both types? <<<

Museum Miniatures makes a separate mounted figure for a "bruder" knight. Essentially a barded knight wearing a monk's habit'; kinda cool, I think!
I would think a vassal knight would be one that has not taken the oath to join (vassal means servant). So, you could go a little wild and have some
colorful units to be crusader knights (that would be my preference as white and black can get kind of old). Check out Mirliton's figures for Teutonic
knights. Also, I think Museum's medieval range is very strong too. Check out David Kuijt's page: http://www.umiacs.umd.edu/~kuijt/dba151/dba151.html
and here: http://www.umiacs.umd.edu/~kuijt/miscel ... eview.html

>>> I'm also thinking of making a Late Medieval German army instead and wondered if "Hundred Years War" figures would be appropriate.<<<

Yes, you can use 100YW figures but avoid typically "French" and "English" head gear types. Check out the Osprey series for more information. Essentially, Germans typically were behind until the latter part of the period on armor styles. The other thing to not is that you are covering a large period here and you don't mention what time period you are doing. Late in the period, you would see the gothic and other Italian armor introduced. If you are modeling the earlier period with Offensive spear, you would go more towards the 100YW armor and the early part of that war. Latter period (pikeman), you would use late period 100YW and could use gothic armored figures (no shield on the knights as the armor had developed enough that shields became obsolete).

Chris Tebo

madaxeman · Post by **madaxeman** » Mon May 25, 2009 11:05 am

I've got a list of who makes "Teutonic" figures in the FoG Wiki on my site if that helps, however I'd concur that for the "follower" knights, its worth just picking up normal knights and painting them with some heraldry, as otherwise the army can look a bit monochrome!

tim

gozerius · Post by **gozerius** » Mon May 25, 2009 11:30 pm

"Crusader" knights are those knights who have come to fulfill a crusading vow. They can be from anywhere in Christendom, even as far away as England. Vassal knights are German colonists and subject Poles and the like.
If depicting an army from the Tannenberg era, the crusader knights would be similar to the Essex Medieval Early Renaissance (MER 1-5) , the vassal knights would be a mixture of these with some of the (EMED 11-12) Poles thrown in for color. The EMED German cavalry isn't right for this period, but would work for Hussites.

DaiSho · Post by **DaiSho** » Tue May 26, 2009 3:55 am

gozerius wrote:They can be from anywhere in Christendom, even as far away as England.

complete with coconuts?

Ian

stenic · Post by **stenic** » Tue May 26, 2009 11:46 am

Museum Miniatures Teutonic Knights in progress.

Steve P

flameberge · Post by **flameberge** » Tue May 26, 2009 4:04 pm

I appreciate the help. So "Vassal" knights wouldn't have the wild headgear that the Tuetons would then? Which, if any, Mirliton figures would be appropriate for Vassal Knights?