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PeteMitchell wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:55 pmBetter ask him how often he has played the mod already... or how many 100x hours he has played it... or if he knows all the units, all the hexes, all the AI zones, all the triggers, all the turns and anything else by hard
Uhu knows this mod best...
since, we are the expert in the Mod, as Pete says.Uhu wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:38 pm Really??Nice!
Than you have to station only a skeleton crew to guard the main Soviet cities, everything else can be transported to the west, because below 4, or 3 main objetives in Soviet hands, nothing will be more produced
which objectives exactly to take in SU to stop completely their units production ?
faos333 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:41 pmsince, we are the expert in the Mod, as Pete says.
How much skeleton and where?
How about partisans?
Warsaw uprising?
etc
If they have less than 4 objective city flags. Excluding the ones in the Caucasus with the letter "C", these are not required for victory, just optional.
What exactly are the city flags objectives?
Thanks I will do
Some were lost around Kursk, it was a static defensive weapon if anything... there were some good ideas around it (looking at its kill ratio) but overall poorly implemented... how can you release a tank without a machine gun for close combat by the way?!faos333 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:38 pmthanks for the video link, I will check this oneMcGuba wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:33 pmAs for the Elefant I would highly recommend watching the related Tankchat episode on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqoFbkdEnpw
Interestingly in the video the presenter came to the very same conclusion like you: although impressive on paper, in practice it was too expensive, to unreliable, too slow and ultimately a failure. In reality only 90 were ever produced in one batch and hence the hard unit strength limit in the mod and the astronomical price for overstrength or elite replacements. In order to have more you need to convince the whole German High Command that you need this heavy metal instead of the cheaper and better Tiger I. And it is quite telling when the Tiger I is being seen as the "cheaper" and more reliable alternative to something. Thus I think the Elefant is now being represented in the mod quite accurately.
I think all victory objectives in the SU matter, except for the ones in the Caucasus... but you don't need troops everywhere, just be aware of the partisans... i.e. they should not capture more than three hexes at once (i.e. in one turn) and should not hold any in the last turn...faos333 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:23 pmWhat exactly are the city flags objectives?
Leningrad, Moscow, Stalingrad, Astrakhan, Archangel and what else?
I guess they thought no one would be able to get too close to it, given its long range gun. And there should always be some infantry or other support units around. Like with the Tiger, originally the heavy tank battalions included some Pz.IIIN tanks as well as support tanks against the infantry. That's how they were sent to Tunisia. They sent some 35 Tigers and about the same number or Pz.IIINs. But later changed their minds and heavy tank battalions were only made up of Tigers:PeteMitchell wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:45 pm Some were lost around Kursk, it was a static defensive weapon if anything... there were some good ideas around it (looking at its kill ratio) but overall poorly implemented... how can you release a tank without a machine gun for close combat by the way?!
Yes, it says on the wiki article that the Ferdinands suffered from mechanical breakdowns:McGuba wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:11 pmI guess they thought no one would be able to get too close to it, given its long range gun. And there should always be some infantry or other support units around. Like with the Tiger, originally the heavy tank battalions included some Pz.IIIN tanks as well as support tanks against the infantry. That's how they were sent to Tunisia. They sent some 35 Tigers and about the same number or Pz.IIINs. But later changed their minds and heavy tank battalions were only made up of Tigers:PeteMitchell wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:45 pm Some were lost around Kursk, it was a static defensive weapon if anything... there were some good ideas around it (looking at its kill ratio) but overall poorly implemented... how can you release a tank without a machine gun for close combat by the way?!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_he ... _battalion
In theory it made sense but in practice it was probably different.
EDIT:
Ah and as I remember somewhere I read that it is somewhat of a myth that the original Ferdinands suffered high losses to enemy infantry, and in fact most losses were due to mines and breakdowns and only a few were actually destroyed or knocked out by the Soviet infantry. Don't remember where I read or saw it though.
I keep in mind this.PeteMitchell wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 7:43 pm It's much easier said than done but the further west (towards Normandy/west of the river Seine) you can (successfully) lay a continued (!) belt of mines, the better IMHO... It delays the AI quite a bit... in both breaking through but also in disembarking its ships...
Be aware of Allied planes when moving the mine trucks into their position though...
I don't recommend putting mines behind rivers (i.e. on your side) as the enemy will try to push through rivers and then (if there are mines on your side)... you can't kill these enemy units...
Sorry no mines!faos333 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:43 amI keep in mind this.PeteMitchell wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 7:43 pm It's much easier said than done but the further west (towards Normandy/west of the river Seine) you can (successfully) lay a continued (!) belt of mines, the better IMHO... It delays the AI quite a bit... in both breaking through but also in disembarking its ships...
Be aware of Allied planes when moving the mine trucks into their position though...
I don't recommend putting mines behind rivers (i.e. on your side) as the enemy will try to push through rivers and then (if there are mines on your side)... you can't kill these enemy units...
