Les Nerviens 2009 - Game 3

[Delbruck]

I think the clue is in the title. If you are not using Hannibal then you can't be Hannibal in Italy. I think the authors have assumed that by definition "Hannibal in Italy" includes Hannibal and didn't feel it necessary to add extra words.

Well, that was was my first reaction also. But "Hannibal in Italy" could refer to Hannibal's army in Italy, in which case it is not unreasonable that a subordinate could command part of this army in a seperate campaign, especially considering the length of the Italian campaign. In this case "Hannibal in Italy" is defining a special campaign, not the actual commander.

This would be similiar to a French Napoleonic army called "Napoleon in Belguim 1815". Napoleon would be an IC, but the army could have been commanded by Ney or Grouchy. I would not equate Hannibal's African veterans with the Imperial Guard of Napoleon, because this is the only African infantry Hannibal is allowed. If Hannibal sends a subordinate on a special campaign (by definition) the veteran Africans are the only Africans he could choose, as there are no average Africans in Italy.

Hopefully a moderator will chime in and clear this up.

[hammy]

With my list checker hat on I would insist that an army that uses the "Hannibal in Italy" options must be commanded by Hannibal. As the list notes require Hannibal to be an IC then if you have those options you must have an IC.

[Delbruck]

With my list checker hat on I would insist that an army that uses the "Hannibal in Italy" options must be commanded by Hannibal. As the list notes require Hannibal to be an IC then if you have those options you must have an IC.

Thank you Hammy. Fair enough. Hannibal always commands in Italy. Interesting army. Rather weak in cavalry against most, except against their historical enemies Mid Republican Romans, and a few others.

[MARVIN_THE_ARVN]

Yeah the cav is fairly rubbish, can be strong in infantry though, the option with 3 bg's of elephants could be interesting.