Ottoman team event : Round Two

[Sedo]

Sedo Pasha is pleased to report that the armies of the Sublime Porte have defeated the forces of Spain (cromlechi) 40-61.

[Nosy_Rat]

Another victory for the armies of the great Sultan - Transylvania falls to the Ottomans!

Nosy_Rat (Ottomans) defeats TheGrayMouser (Transylvania) 70-34.

[KiwiWarlord]

Well done on your brilliant Victories Sedo Pasha and Nosy Rat.
The Empire is expanding above all expectation, your rewards will be great.

[ahuyton]

And here is the latest. I gope that Gavin can complete his games against Flynn and Dang in the next week. With the Ottoman threat level standing at 32 it is looking like a regular game for Round 3, or perhaps an Ottoma 100 point bonus if Gdod can pull off some victories.

Time to start selecting opponents, one of Imperial, Russian, Persian or Venetian Colonial to fit with the period 1630-48.


Ottoman victories
Gribol v Pancalvus (Polish)
Sedo v Cromlechi (Spanish)
Nosy_Rat v TheGrayMouser (Transylvanian)

Enemy victories
Snugglebunnies (Polish) v ahuyton
Smjohnso77 (Teutonics) v GentlemanRanker
Tomoegozen (Algerian) v Veles
Awesum4 (Polish) v Snooky51

Draws
Kerry D (Polish) v Kiwiwarlord

Not yet decided

Flynnn5555 v Gdod
Dang v Gdod (Zaporozhian Cossacks)

[TomoeGozen]

Where do we find each of these enemies lists , are they all extra nations or part of the standard game?
Thanks,
Dave.

[KiwiWarlord]

Where do we find each of these enemies lists , are they all extra nations or part of the standard game?
Thanks,
Dave.

Russian & Ottomans are in Tercio to Slavo, 1630-1648
Venetians are in Extra Nations V3
Not sure about the rest

[GDod]

I g(h)ope that Gavin can complete his games against Flynn and Dang in the next week.

Sorry, Alan both my opponents haven't been on-line for some time. Dang was doing well and has a clear upper-hand but Flynn and I have only played 2 turns since well before Xmas. I'll try to reach them again.

[TomoeGozen]

Which Persian list is available and where is it to be found?

Thanks,
Dave.

[gribol]

So, i have got found, that Ottomans have got army 1630-1648 in both modules (Tercio to Salvo and Extra Nations.)
Opponents can choose, if i think correctly:

A. From Tercio to Salvo:
1. Imperial 1619-1631
2. Russian 1630-1648

B. From Extra Nations:
1. Russian 1630-1648
2. Venetial Colonial 1645-1649

I can find any Persians from this period.
Do we wish to add some others nations?

[ahuyton]

You are right, sorry my error.

How about adding the Wallachians (Extra Nations) to the list of choices?

[gribol]

You are right, sorry my error.

How about adding the Wallachians (Extra Nations) to the list of choices?

With the swarm of Light Hussars? NO AT ALL!!
I can propose Transylwanians 1632-1648. They have got very nice army.

[KiwiWarlord]

From Dang.
Not sure of the final % but it appears to be an Ottoman Victory.


Hayel the Great Sultan Sow the Man Muhamad Brian!
(whom I would never dream to replace of course)
Merry Xmas fellow Beys, Sherifs and other Underlings,

In spite of wearing 2 Turbans at once somewhat limiting my view and by all the sweat inducing some mistakes (retreated units with backs toward enemy in stead of turning them to face....twice!) my Troops up north (of our Black Sea that is) of course soundly beat the dirty stinking pack of Cossack Serfs that opposed the might of the steadfeast in faith under a certain -spitten on his name- GDot claiming to be from a place called Al Taranaki?

As I knew the enemy so well (didnt bother to look up what Cossacks are and assumed them to be somewhat like Tartars at this stage in time....) I decided that the proper counter to the enemies vast hordes of light horse would be to anchor my center line of Elite Janissary Arquebussiers, Artillery and Azab Archers (12 units) the left end on a Hill and Marsh preceded by 2 light foot Arquebussiers in a Marsch in front of my left flank (the further left I judged rightly was well covered by a large Forest, so no Outflanking of my left took place) and the right End on a small pond, then deploy 90 % of my Mounted (first rank light horse, second rank Timariots and Siphahis) on my right flank beyond the pond and a small 2 unit mounted reserve behind my left on the small hill. No reserve behind the center which proved to be a problem.
I had bought all the Siphahis, Azab Archers, Elite Janisaries available and 3 units of light foot, minimum non bow light horse, Army composition turned out to be a very good choice)

Turned out my spies where utterly wrong about the enemy army composition (beheaded them of course). The Enemy Cossacks deployed in a Box 10 or more wide and 4 (four!) ranks deep opposite my center. First rank light foot Arquebussiers, second rank 10 mixed foot spear and arquebus (only of my troops with any chance to beat those frontally where my 5 or 6 elite Janissary) Third rank mixed Medium foot Arquebussiers, 4 th Rank levies. Some Cavalry between them. He had no (NO) left flank opposing my mounted right flank wing that now massively outreached him. His right flank was 5 units of Light horse lancer bow and some dragoons.

I raced my azab archers of my left center into the protection of the swamp in front of my left flank to not let them be caught by his mixed foot in the open. To cover them I moved my small reserve of 2 mounted (timariot/Siphai) and a screen of 2 light foot Arquebussiers. on their flanks I slightly overextended there so after the fighting began suffered holes in my flank and in the process of the battle the light foot, Archers and Timariot all got routed by superior numbers of enemy Dragoons, light horse arquebussiers and mixed foot shooting and fighting them to Annihilation. But the enemy took a heavy toll in the process. In the center My elite Janissaries and single unit of Spearmen wrangled down the opposition directly in front of them (the janissary massively outshooting the enemy mixed foot on a 1 to 1 shooting duell before impact helped). but I lost most of my victorious Janissary when they pursued and the enemy caught them in flank charges with his 3rd rank of Arquebussiers. That was the moment when I wished I had kept a small mounted Reserve behind my center. So in all the dirty enemies tactic of depth to counter my quality worked on the left half my front.

My right wing took longer than I would have wished to close in but when it did, it wrapped around the enemy box covering part of its front, the whole flank and part of the back.
In vain the enemy tried to face me, moving up the levy to match my frontage which turned to be a disadvantage as I beat those hairy wives and boys even with my few lancer light horse. No question I routed all of them, but it took me too long (my light horse archers took many turns to shoot his Infantry to pieces and did not do too well in hand to hand) to safe my left flank from destruction. I was at 23 % difference in damage to my advantage in Turn 7 , but Turn 8 turned out to be disastrous as I moved an Azab Archer unit on my left flank backwards towards the enemy instead of turning to face and my sole left flank Timariot broke on impact/melee when attacked by one of his few lancer Cavalry, leading 1 turn later to the rout of the 5 other units comprising my left flank plus at the same time several Timariots of my right center who won their melees and pursued went into Autobreak under the concentrated fire of several of his third rank Arquebussiers. So I roughly lost 40 % of my Army (left wing all but 1 Unit of Siphahi and more than half of my center, only 2 units of Elite Janisary still unbroken in Turn 10) but smashed about 20 % of his Army in the process while my strong mounted right wing broke all of his left wing and center for about 40 % losses of his with no losses of mine right of my center axis.

End result, be strong in faith, keep your lines dressed and uniforms tidy, attack where you are strong, try to hide or run away where you are not, never advance when not sure of winning...

Long liveth our Sultan, hail, hail, hail and 3 half moons (with poppy seeds, the Giaurs call them Croissants I believe) on that

Til the man ben Dang - Bey
Governor of Al Nelson in the Sultans lovely Province of Al Zelandhia- Nuewi, bearer of the famous double Turban, and now interim Adminsitrator of Cossackia and the northern Steppes, the black Sea trade etc etc....

[GDod]

Not sure of the final % but it appears to be an Ottoman Victory.

Twas a fun game without a shred of terrain to hide behind....The final count was 63% of the runaway Polish Commonwealth serfs were absent from the evening meal of watered down tree bark and 46% of the Ottoman sales team didn't meet their quota and were summarily shot. The remaining serfs celebrated the fortunate event due to the windfall of tree bark gruel at the end of the day. One Cossack was quoted as saying... "Any more defeats like this one and we'll have to go on a diet!"

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[Pixel]

Sorry guys I've been trying to get a hold of flynnn5555 he seems to have not gotten turn notifications. So the game is currently sitting there still waiting for his turn.

[ahuyton]

So this seems to be the final score and the end of Round Two:

Ottoman victories
Gribol v Pancalvus (Polish)
Sedo v Cromlechi (Spanish)
Nosy_Rat v TheGrayMouser (Transylvanian)
Dang v Gdod (Zaporozhian Cossacks)

Enemy victories
Snugglebunnies (Polish) v ahuyton
Smjohnso77 (Teutonics) v GentlemanRanker
Tomoegozen (Algerian) v Veles
Awesum4 (Polish) v Snooky51

Draws
Kerry D (Polish) v Kiwiwarlord

Cancelled game

Flynnn5555 v Gdod

CONCLUSION - the next game will be at equal points.

[GDod]

The games afoot(stool) Brian. Our Cossack serfs have fled to Russia and enlisted the help of Count Alottov Dead of the Novograd Custom Furniture Warehouse to aid our cause against colonization of Christianity by Islamic foot stools!

password = ikea

[KiwiWarlord]

The games afoot(stool) Brian. Our Cossack serfs have fled to Russia and enlisted the help of Count Alottov Dead of the Novograd Custom Furniture Warehouse to aid our cause against colonization of Christianity by Islamic foot stools!

password = ikea

Your challenge is null and void Gavin. See my post in Round 3 thread.