DLC 1941 East Front ideation

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Re: DLC 1941 East Front ideation

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Vorskl wrote: Sat Dec 19, 2020 1:13 pm
NeyLutzow wrote: Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:08 pm Implying capturing moscow would bring a end to the war, Skipping kiev would mean more than 1 million enemy soldiers on germany army group center southern flank, I think a more interesting what if scenario would be germany concentrating on taking the caucasus in 1941 instead of wasting resources at moscow.
So advancing to Moscow w/o capturing Kiev possess a flanking threat, but pushing much further to Baku - Grozny with all Soviet troops on your North flank is acceptable? :) Even in the real-life disastrous 1941, Caucusus was out of reach of germans.
I could be missing something here!... so anyway... I will still submit what I suspect to be really the case here. That is!...the 'Reason' that the 'Caucasus' was out of reach was mainly because of the late start to accomplish the task... as well as a shortage of 'Fuel Supplies' allocated for the task at hand.

As far as the North Flank is concerned... well... a separate 'Army-Group' could have taken care of that situation to keep it under control... to keep it from becoming a threat.
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Re: DLC 1941 East Front ideation

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Vorskl wrote: Sat Dec 19, 2020 1:13 pm
NeyLutzow wrote: Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:08 pm Implying capturing moscow would bring a end to the war, Skipping kiev would mean more than 1 million enemy soldiers on germany army group center southern flank, I think a more interesting what if scenario would be germany concentrating on taking the caucasus in 1941 instead of wasting resources at moscow.
So advancing to Moscow w/o capturing Kiev possess a flanking threat, but pushing much further to Baku - Grozny with all Soviet troops on your North flank is acceptable? :) Even in the real-life disastrous 1941, Caucusus was out of reach of germans.
I never said they should go to caucasus without securing the flanks you are the one saying they should go to moscow without securing theirs, but thats your opinion and I respect that. The advance to the caucasus should be just like planned all army groups going straight one supporting the other and as we know that failed, but it was the most reasonable plan for a invasion of a colossus like the soviet union, and they don't need exactly to reach baku if they had take or disable maikop and grozny they could supply germany with fuel while deprive the soviet from a good amount of oil and that would hit the soviet economy more than capturing moscow.
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Re: DLC 1941 East Front ideation

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quick question about the 1941 DLC... will there be a 1941 East Front and 1941 Africa or 1 big one combining the two?
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Re: DLC 1941 East Front ideation

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Tumnog wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:29 pm quick question about the 1941 DLC... will there be a 1941 East Front and 1941 Africa or 1 big one combining the two?
I guess it will be the ostfront because if the game intend on continue our "condor legion" story the unit did not took part in afrika.
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Re: DLC 1941 East Front ideation

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Tumnog wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:29 pm quick question about the 1941 DLC... will there be a 1941 East Front and 1941 Africa or 1 big one combining the two?
AO41 will be East Front.
There is a lot of Africa in the main campaign, so don't expect any Africa Corps anytime soon.

That being said there could be an African DLC later, but expect differences as in AO39.
May or may not be connected to AO DLCs, but modding to import an AO40 army is trivial.
Or could be Italian with German AI allies, Or start with an Italian DLC follow by a DLC where you import both your Italian army and a AO40 German army.
There comes a time on every project when it is time to shoot the engineer and ship the damn thing.
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Re: DLC 1941 East Front ideation

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dalfrede wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 9:36 pm
Tumnog wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:29 pm quick question about the 1941 DLC... will there be a 1941 East Front and 1941 Africa or 1 big one combining the two?
...start with an Italian DLC follow by a DLC where you import both your Italian army and a AO40 German army.
That would be really cool!! :P
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Re: DLC 1941 East Front ideation

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dalfrede wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 9:36 pm
Tumnog wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:29 pm quick question about the 1941 DLC... will there be a 1941 East Front and 1941 Africa or 1 big one combining the two?
AO41 will be East Front.
There is a lot of Africa in the main campaign, so don't expect any Africa Corps anytime soon.

That being said there could be an African DLC later, but expect differences as in AO39.
May or may not be connected to AO DLCs, but modding to import an AO40 army is trivial.
Or could be Italian with German AI allies, Or start with an Italian DLC follow by a DLC where you import both your Italian army and a AO40 German army.
cool, sounds great :)
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Re: DLC 1941 East Front ideation

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i think this has to be a really huge dlc or divided in the 3 army groups and in the other theaters actually too, because there's a lot a huge lot of things going on in 1941 (balkans, urss invasion, finland invading the urss with germany from the north towards lenningrad, the war in africa covering the british- italian conflict until the arrive of afrika korps is also something new and never covered before that should be explored)
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Re: DLC 1941 East Front ideation

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actually you can have potentially a 50 scenario dlc covering all those aspects of 1941, so thats where the storytelling aspect of the campaign gets tricky, because is not possible to be everywhere, so maybe the other theaters can be narrated in the way of letters sent to the general from other generals or something like that.
Actually the whole balkans campaign was something really explored only 2 or 3 scenarios in pc gc, so explore it in depth would be something really cool and new to the game, maybe spliting AO 1941 in three parts, like 1941 Balkans, 1941 Afrika and 1941 Soviet Union could be possible
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