What Good is Retaliate?

[w_michael]

It isn't in the manual, but the Patch Notes says: "An army with a leader can attack with a 'Retaliate Expedition' order that will make them not conquer the region (and still fight the enemy)". This isn't like a raid because you have to be at war with the target region, but I don't see much benefit. I have to admit that I haven't tried one. Does It gain money if successful? Are there any other benefits?

[Gray Fox]

Originally, this allowed you to attack a faction or an independent/rebel region, without acquiring a piece of crap. I pointed out in a post that this could be used so you gain a slave and also train a stack of units every turn if the region was rebel. I believe that Pocus had the devs change that, so it may be less useful now.

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[Pocus]

The aim is to destroy or weaken an enemy army in a region you don't want to conquer. This is about neutralizing a menace at your border, you want to trash them but don't want to expand.

[w_michael]

So it is more of a preemptive strike rather than a retaliation, because the target actually hasn't done anything to retaliate against. I get that you might not want to capture a poor region so this is a good, but situational option.

[QA]

So it's basically for when you want to do something like Germanicus' punitive expedition into Germany then, I take it.

[Surt]

So it's basically for when you want to do something like Germanicus' punitive expedition into Germany then, I take it.

Or when you want to ramp up your warscore against someone you don't want to conquer.

[Pocus]

So it is more of a preemptive strike rather than a retaliation, because the target actually hasn't done anything to retaliate against. I get that you might not want to capture a poor region so this is a good, but situational option.

Yes, but it has to be a single word, not too long ideally

[w_michael]

How about Strike? Raid to plunder and Strike to inflict casualties. Neither captures the target region.

[dunnsa]

Punish

[Gray Fox]

"Fear Us!"

[Pocus]

Strike could do the trick yes, even if that's not a preemptive strike as it would be. Or perhaps that's a just retaliation

[poesel71]

I always found 'preemptive retaliation' such a useful political tool. Unfortunately that name is too long.


Edit: two typos

[w_michael]

Strike could do the trick yes, even if that's not a preemptive strike as it would be. Or perhaps that's a just retaliation

Strike is a hard Anglo-Saxon sounding word, whereas retaliation (with a French pronunciation) is song-like with six syllables.

[TimDee58]

Punitive Raid