Village in Developed area

olivier · Post by **olivier** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:28 am

Can you choose to place as a large piece a village in the developed territory?
The phrase p 140 isn't clear from the other side of the channel

SirGarnet · Post by **SirGarnet** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:34 am

A village can be large if compulsory. Otherwise the terrain table only allows 1 piece for a Village (i.e., small).

WhiteKnight · Post by **WhiteKnight** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:23 am

If the terrain type chosen by the player with initiative is "Developed" then that player must "choose"/place a village as his/her compulsory piece with an option that it could be of the larger size. At least IIRC!

martin

stenic · Post by **stenic** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:28 am

Yes, only if it's compulsory.

I tend to like villages, no particular reason why that (vs other difficult terrain) other than I like to have some buildings on the table.

Interestingly at Shieldwall we did have a discussion on the terrain sequence laying; it does say the player with initiative places 'any' village. Since it then goes on to say 'his' when talking about other features for initiative player and the non-initiative player we wondered if it meant the initiative player gets to chose the non-initiative player's village. Both players felt this was perhaps harsh and further terrain instructions also show an ambiguous use of 'any' and 'his'.

But we did wonder if 'any' meant even the other player's pick or any of his own picks.

Steve P

philqw78 · Post by **philqw78** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 12:08 pm

I thought only the player with initiative could place a village

petedalby · Post by **petedalby** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 12:13 pm

I thought only the player with initiative could place a village

Spot on Phil

Pete

shall · Post by **shall** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 12:26 pm

All correct. Cunningly designed so that:

1 You can only put one down at all if you are the player with the initiative (and in a terrain with one of course)

2. You can only geta large on in DEVELOPED as a compluasory item if you so choose - or put a smal one down and leave the enclosed field for the opponent

Si

Polkovnik · Post by **Polkovnik** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:20 pm

or put a smal one down and leave the enclosed field for the opponent

What do you mean by that ? Surely the opponent gets the enclosed field regardless ?

rbodleyscott · Post by **rbodleyscott** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:26 pm

petedalby wrote:
I thought only the player with initiative could place a village
Spot on Phil

Bah, and I let 2 of my opponents without initiative place villages at the weekend.

(Although I threw a 6 and removed one of them, after they had deliberated long and hard where to put it).

stenic · Post by **stenic** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:40 pm

rbodleyscott wrote:
petedalby wrote:
I thought only the player with initiative could place a village
Spot on Phil
Bah, and I let 2 of my opponents without initiative place villages at the weekend. (Although I threw a 6 and removed one of them, after they had deliberated long and hard where to put it).

Sorreee

I think I must illegally placed 1 twice.

Steve P

shall · Post by **shall** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:41 pm

or put a smal one down and leave the enclosed field for the opponent

What do you mean by that ? Surely the opponent gets the enclosed field regardless ?

Correct. Ignore that bit. You must if compulsory IIRC.

Si

olivier · Post by **olivier** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 5:18 pm

Thank's for the answers

Olivier

DaiSho · Post by **DaiSho** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:08 pm

MikeK wrote:A village can be large if compulsory. Otherwise the terrain table only allows 1 piece for a Village (i.e., small).

You sure about that?

If it's not compulsory, you are still only taking one piece (large) but it counts as two selections.

Ian

petedalby · Post by **petedalby** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:50 pm

You sure about that?

Absolutely!

Any large feature counts as 2 selections - unless it's compulsory. And no terrain choice allows for more than 1 village - so it always has to be a normal sized feature unless you are in Developed.

Pete

DaiSho · Post by **DaiSho** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:17 pm

petedalby wrote:Any large feature counts as 2 selections

Yup.

You're allowed 4 selections.

Two selections are taken as one village, so you're not allowed to take another village. You've got two more selections.

Ian

gozerius · Post by **gozerius** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:04 am

You are only allowed 1 village selection. Unless compulsary, a large feature counts as 2 selections. Therefore to get a large village, it must be compulsary.

rbodleyscott · Post by **rbodleyscott** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:22 am

gozerius wrote:You are only allowed 1 village selection. Unless compulsary, a large feature counts as 2 selections. Therefore to get a large village, it must be compulsary.

This is correct.

recharge · Post by **recharge** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:23 am

Sorry to beat a dead (dying?) horse, but if I have the initiative and DO NOT choose the village; then there is no village?

My opponent would then have no compulsory piece, just his 2-4 optionals

Thanks,
John

petedalby · Post by **petedalby** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:26 am

If you have chosen Developed, you must select the Village - there is no other option.

Pete

recharge · Post by **recharge** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:48 am

ooops, sorry! Don't have my rules here.

If the village is an optional, then only the initiative player may choose it?

If the village is mandatory, the initiative player MUST choose it?

John