About Disruption

[GeneralKostas]

In the first photo the Muslim Light Horse (Javelins) unit have lost 10% of its men (114/126) and is disrupted. In the second photo, the same unit have lost over 20% of its men (93/123) and is still steady.

I think, it should be the opposite. The unit with the most casualties must be disrupted etc.

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[SnuggleBunnies]

The unit that took more casualties is indeed likelier to fail its cohesion test, but it got lucky. It happens.

[Athos1660]

It reflects well the fact that IRL the number of casualties is a major factor in the morale of a unit but not the only one.

[GeneralKostas]

One possible modification of the Disruption state is to be equal to 1/3 casualties of a unit.
The Muslim Light Horse (Javelins) unit with 126 men strength could be disrupted when loose the first 42 men. And the same for the rest morale states (Fragmented and routed).

[Athos1660]

No need of any modification.
Morale state is not solely related to fractions of casualties.
There are lots of examples in History when a 'unit' never gave up fighting, despite or... because of their numerous dead and wounded comrades. And the inverse is true too : other units quickly lost heart.

[GeneralKostas]

One more thing i have noticed in the game so far is the disruption of a steady unit, when it falls back one hex. Steady unit in full strength away for the battle for many turns.

[Athos1660]

You mean that your unit was out of charge reach of any non-light enemy unit, whether or not that enemy was actually in a position to charge ?

[GeneralKostas]

The unit was one hex away from the enemy unit in open ground. It disrupted and in the next turn, the enemy unit charge and fragment my unit. I was surprised, because i wanted to retreat and avoid a mismatch.

[Athos1660]

Falling back near enemy is a risky manoeuvre, so the unit always takes a Cohesion Test when within charge reach of a non-light enemy unit (manual, p. 65).

[GeneralKostas]

So, a unit must be two or more hexes away to fall back without a Cohesion Test. I was unlucky one more time.

[DanZanzibar]

It's actually less precise than that. If you check this post you'll get a better understanding.

viewtopic.php?f=477&t=95234

[Athos1660]

I thought it was :

1) when enemy face you ready to charge :
≥ 3 squares if enemy = infantry, as they can move 2 squares forward (APs = 10)
≥ 5 squares if enemy = cavalry, as they can move 4 squares forward (APs = 16)

2) + an algo when the enemy "is not actually in a position to charge"

[DanZanzibar]

I swear I've been 3 squares away from infantry and taken CT's when falling back.

[GeneralKostas]

So, it is unpredictable