Heroes should die with their unit.
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Heroes should die with their unit.
I thought I lost some really important units, but the heroes are back, all of them? How about an option in the menu that players can choose either live 100% every time, or less 25%, 50%, 75% that they may or may not survive. Put some excitement and consequences into the hero department. Living 100% all the time feels too gamey and baby level war game to me, an option for everyone to play how they choose would be an improvement.
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Re: Heroes should die with their unit.
+1
if you have a powerful hero , you must admit you may lose him
if you have a powerful hero , you must admit you may lose him
my custom mini-campaign in order of battle :
http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=374&t=79333&p=676302#p676302
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http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=374&t=79333&p=676302#p676302
Panzer corps mods archive (folders or zip versions) : http://jeffoot.freeboxos.fr:41226/share/KmCyju7JFZX6dD2B/
Re: Heroes should die with their unit.
I must admit I assumed heros did die of the unit they were attached to were lost.superman81906 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 8:41 am I thought I lost some really important units, but the heroes are back? Maybe a percentage chance they live and you get them back if this mechanic does not already exist. Would bring some uncertainty to losing a heroic unit.
I'd prefere it that way.
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Re: Heroes should die with their unit.
Yes
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Re: Heroes should die with their unit.
I thought instead of getting them back completely every time, maybe there could be a 25% chance they survive?Horseman wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 10:01 amI must admit I assumed heros did die of the unit they were attached to were lost.superman81906 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 8:41 am I thought I lost some really important units, but the heroes are back? Maybe a percentage chance they live and you get them back if this mechanic does not already exist. Would bring some uncertainty to losing a heroic unit.
I'd prefere it that way.
Re: Heroes should die with their unit.
Maybe a chance they survive. They 100% shouldn't be immortal!
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Re: Heroes should die with their unit.
You can always refuse to use them after they...perish.
Re: Heroes should die with their unit.
Yup there's that dismiss button right there. Imposing such a rule on all players is just going to make more people reach for those save/load buttons. While anyone who wants to impose chance for hero death on themselves... go right ahead. But it won't be a default setting.eddieballgame wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:16 am You can always refuse to use them after they...perish.
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Re: Heroes should die with their unit.
Any why not a setting in the menu, you sound like you know what is best for EVERY player. You don't, in fact, their are more players in this post that want a change or option for this. And like everything else in the game, it could be added or fixed. If you are a content creator for the game, your personal opinion for the only way to play the game does not matter, it matters what the players want, especially when you sound like a jerk off. An option would be the PROFESSIONAL decision, not your personal opinion.Kerensky wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:16 amYup there's that dismiss button right there. Imposing such a rule on all players is just going to make more people reach for those save/load buttons. While anyone who wants to impose chance for hero death on themselves... go right ahead. But it won't be a default setting.eddieballgame wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:16 am You can always refuse to use them after they...perish.
Re: Heroes should die with their unit.
A valid point regarding dismissing them however.....
There's a reason Iron man settings exist in many many games when you can just choose not to reload.
Maybe make it a selectable option?
There's a reason Iron man settings exist in many many games when you can just choose not to reload.
Maybe make it a selectable option?
Re: Heroes should die with their unit.
"People's hero are immortal"
So they should not "die", every hero (moreover she-heroes) appear again later under same name, even (s)he's probably someone different.

So they should not "die", every hero (moreover she-heroes) appear again later under same name, even (s)he's probably someone different.
Re: Heroes should die with their unit.
"maybe there could be a 25% chance they survive"
--> NO! i don't play in Chess mode to get more RNG with my heroes!
"Maybe make it a selectable option?"
--> +1 : and in iron mode , make them perish !
--> NO! i don't play in Chess mode to get more RNG with my heroes!
"Maybe make it a selectable option?"
--> +1 : and in iron mode , make them perish !
my custom mini-campaign in order of battle :
http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=374&t=79333&p=676302#p676302
Panzer corps mods archive (folders or zip versions) : http://jeffoot.freeboxos.fr:41226/share/KmCyju7JFZX6dD2B/
http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=374&t=79333&p=676302#p676302
Panzer corps mods archive (folders or zip versions) : http://jeffoot.freeboxos.fr:41226/share/KmCyju7JFZX6dD2B/
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Re: Heroes should die with their unit.
That is exactly what I said, AN OPTION FOR PLAYERS THAT WANT IT.
Re: Heroes should die with their unit.
100% d´accord. An option would be great. And by the way: in iron man mode its defenitly a must. (and no i dont want to dismiss the heroes myself, i want to set a percentage from zero to 100% at beginning of the campaign)superman81906 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 6:44 amAny why not a setting in the menu, you sound like you know what is best for EVERY player. You don't, in fact, their are more players in this post that want a change or option for this. And like everything else in the game, it could be added or fixed. If you are a content creator for the game, your personal opinion for the only way to play the game does not matter, it matters what the players want, especially when you sound like a jerk off. An option would be the PROFESSIONAL decision, not your personal opinion.Kerensky wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:16 amYup there's that dismiss button right there. Imposing such a rule on all players is just going to make more people reach for those save/load buttons. While anyone who wants to impose chance for hero death on themselves... go right ahead. But it won't be a default setting.eddieballgame wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:16 am You can always refuse to use them after they...perish.
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Re: Heroes should die with their unit.
If the 'devs' can squeeze this option in while focusing on the, more, important stuff such as more scenarios, campaigns, modding tools, bug fixes, etc...sure, why not.
Personally I would like some UI Scaling per the text...but I can live without it. (I have other means of resolving that...issue.)
I suspect that a feature that can, already, be implemented by the player (though artificially) is not high on their 'todo' list.
Personally I would like some UI Scaling per the text...but I can live without it. (I have other means of resolving that...issue.)
I suspect that a feature that can, already, be implemented by the player (though artificially) is not high on their 'todo' list.
Re: Heroes should die with their unit.
Agree.o_t_d_x wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:35 pm100% d´accord. An option would be great. And by the way: in iron man mode its defenitly a must. (and no i dont want to dismiss the heroes myself, i want to set a percentage from zero to 100% at beginning of the campaign)superman81906 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 6:44 amAny why not a setting in the menu, you sound like you know what is best for EVERY player. You don't, in fact, their are more players in this post that want a change or option for this. And like everything else in the game, it could be added or fixed. If you are a content creator for the game, your personal opinion for the only way to play the game does not matter, it matters what the players want, especially when you sound like a jerk off. An option would be the PROFESSIONAL decision, not your personal opinion.Kerensky wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:16 am
Yup there's that dismiss button right there. Imposing such a rule on all players is just going to make more people reach for those save/load buttons. While anyone who wants to impose chance for hero death on themselves... go right ahead. But it won't be a default setting.