PG2 player

[Sjoa18]

As a loooong time PG2 player (I actually remember buying the game off the shelf in a local Best Buy...I think it was 1997), I was super excited to try PC2 especially since PC1 didn't have the "overrun" capability. I purchased the FM edition, and so far so good! Some questions/observations....

1) Is Germany the only country with playable campaigns? I can't seem to find any other campaigns other than Wehrmacht ones. (The 5 provided
are good cross section but loved how PG2 started in Spain for their blitz campaign.)
2) Like the heroes and general traits - but still getting used to them. Is there a list of heroes someplace?
3) I'm playing timed scenarios - and the turns allowed seems to be fixed at 20. Is there any incentive for finishing early? PG2 I believe had Brilliant Victory, Victory, and Tactical Victory, and then Loss based on how many turns it took to win. Is there any incentive on finishing a scenario as quick as possible?
4) PG2 had a game editor (I believe it was user created) where you can go in and adjust deployable hexes, unit strength etc on a turn by turn basis. It was quite powerful and allowed you to modify scenarios and even campaigns. Certainly there's a lot of fun to be had before this is really needed...and I guess me real question is, are there user mods that can be anticipated like PG2?
5) Finally thank you to the devs - love how PG2 the game feels, but one difference is that I love how troops can move before and after embarking! Saved me a ton of damage in norway south!!

[Kerensky]

Always good to hear from a series veteran.

For the moment, yes only Wehrmacht campaign are in Panzer Corps 2. As for Spain... well as I recall, Panzer General 2 only had a single scenario for Spain. That's not really all that impressive so I'm not entirely disappointed that Panzer Corps 2 doesn't also only have a lone Spanish scenario. It was a big war that lasted 3 years. Maybe we'll see it here, in a better state than one lonesome, tiny scenario? Time will tell.

I'll post a (long) list of heroes next post, but I'm not sure it's complete there might actually be more.

The four degrees of victory have been trimmed for simplicity. Finishing early only carries some prestige bonuses I believe. The system is better this way... but I do miss some interesting potential that was lost with degrees of victory. Might have to bring it back in a better form. The old system of deliberately losing to explore alternate paths is just too problematic over current system of choosing after victory.

PzC2 comes with editor, but there is no custom content on launch... because custom content takes time to make. Hopefully it will come as players get their hands on it, but for now everyone is mostly playing, not working on making custom stuff it seems.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... =emb_title
This video touches on editor introductions.

Thank you for your post, hope you continue to enjoy the game as it grows and improves in its post launch life cycle too.

[Kerensky]

So we were asked to provide a list of all the unit and hero traits as there's currently not much information about them in-game due to their nebulous and experimental nature.

The following list is taken from what I'm supplied with in order to produce the icons. I can't guarantee this is complete and bare in mind these are preliminary names and descriptions and so cannot be assumed to be set in stone. There's also no guarantee they will make it to release in their current or indeed any incarnation. They're all subject to change and dependant on what YOU feedback to us.

Pat.

Unit traits

• Carpet Bombing, "Destroys supplies (fuel and ammo) when attacking
• Forced March, " +1 move point, cooldown 3 turns
• Entrenchment Killer 2x, " Destroys 2 points of entrenchment
• Entrenchment Killer 3x, " Destroys 3 points of entrenchment
• Entrenchment Killer 4x, " Destroys 4 points of entrenchment
• No Zone of Control, " Does not project ZOC to adjacent hexes
• Ignores Zone of Control, " Ignores ZOC projected by enemy units when moving
• Camouflage, " Can only be detected by recons or adjacent grounjd units
• No Upgrade, " Unit cannot be upgraded
• No Replace, " Unit cannot be given replacements
• Minefield, " Minefields cannot be crossed until destroyed
• Mine Killer, " Can attack minefields and damage them
• Mine Sweeper, " Destroys minefields with a single attack
• Counter Battery Fire, " Provides support fire against enemy artillery units in range
• No Retaliation, " When attacking, enemy units don't shoot back
• No Move After Attack, " Cannot move after spending its attack action
• No Attack After Move, " Cannot attack after spending its move action
• Open Top, " Open-topped vehicle, vulnerable to strafing fighters
• Ignores Entrenchment, " Ignores enemy entrenchment when attacking
• Phased Movement, " Can move in steps within its movement point limit
• Overrun, " Can overrun crippled enemy units
• No Retreat, " Unit never retreats
• No Surrender, " Unit never surrenders
• No Entrenchment, " Unit does not entrench
• Kamikaze, " Unit is destroyed after its first attack
• Single Shot, " Unit disappears after its first attack
• No Split, " Unit cannot be split
• Alpine, " +4 attack and +4 defense in hills and mountains
• Recon movement, " The unit can make several moves within its total movement points limit. Every movement consumes an additional movement point.
• Fast unmount, " This unit unmounts from its attached transport after first enemy attack
• Move or fire, " Can move or fire, but not both, in a single turn
• Attack penalty after move (X ), " -X to accuracy when attacking after movement. Could be used for heavy artillery only (light would not have this penalty)
• Fuel consumption (X), " This unit spends X% from normal fuel consumption (normal is 1 point of fuel per 1 movement point)
• Second move (X), " Active ability. Converts unused attack action to another X% of normal move points limit.
• Bridge killer, " This unit can attack and destroy bridges.
• Area damage (X), " Attacks all units within radius X from attack hex (can be used for A bomb and similar mass destruction weapons) (atomic bomb?)
• Evade (X), " When attacked, the unit has X% chance to evade (cancel) the attack. The game displays an “Evades!” message, and no combat happens.
• Low-altitude attack, " (TODO) AA units with this trait get +X to accuracy (gameplay parameter) against aircraft with the same trait. Aircraft with this trait get –Y to ground defence (gameplay parameter) when attacking a ground target (not when they are being attacked).
• High-altitude attack, " (TODO) AA units with this trait get +X to accuracy (gameplay parameter) against aircraft with the same trait.
• Limited replace (X), " This unit can receive no more than X replacements per turn (does not affect replacements between missions)
• Green, " This unit is always purchased with zero experience.
• Torpedo bomber, " Can only attack naval target from water hexes.
• Radar, " (TODO: special properties of a radar unit)
• Sonar, " Detects submerged submarines
• Missile, " ( V1 and V2 only?) (TODO: special properties of missile units)
• Unreliable (X), " This unit has an X% chance to lose its attack action or each of its movement points at the beginning of a each turn.
• Super heavy, " This unit cannot use bridges (including the ones created by bridge engineers) and always spends all moves in order to enter a river hex.



Hero Traits

• DoubleMove, "Unit gets 2 move actions per turn, without increasing the number of movement points."
• DoubleAttack, "Unit gets 2 attack actions per turn."
• Splitter, "Unit can be split without spending an extra unit slot."
• ShockTactics, "When attacking, pins enemy unit in place by destroying all its movement points."
• OverwhelmingAttack, "Always forces enemy units to retreat."
• Envelopment, "Prevents enemy units from retreating, so they surrender instead."
• Liberator, "2x prestige for all flags captured by this unit"
• DoubleMassAttack, "When participating in Mass Attack, contributes double effect."
• FastLearner, "2x faster experience growth"
• SixthSense, "Complete immunity to ambushes"
• HitAndRun, "When attacked, enemy units with lower initiative do not shoot back"
• LethalAttack, "All suppression caused by this unit is converted to kills"
• Survivor, "As long as this unit has more than 1 strength, it will always survive enemy attack"
• FastEntrenchment, "Gets 2x entrenchment speed"
• SmartEntrenchment, "Gets 2x bonus from entrenchment"
• RiverAssault, "Ignores combat penalties from rivers"
• FastDeployment, "Can unmount from organic transport after movement"
• LightningAttack, "Immune to all types of support fire"
• CombatLuck, "Combat results can never be worse than predicted"
• PathFinder, "When moving, treats any difficult terrain as clear"
• Provocator, "Enemies attacking adjacent friendly unit will attack this unit instead."
• Avenger, "Gets attack bonus for each point of lost strength"
• Prudent, "Gets defense bonus for each point of lost strength"
• TankKiller, "Attack bonus against tank units"
• Butcher, "Attack bonus against infantry units"
• DefenderOfPeople, "Combat bonus when adjacent to friendly settlements"
• OnTheRoll, "Gets progressive combat bonus after each kill"
• Leadership, "+1 initiative to all adjacent friendly units"
• FearsomeReputation, "-1 initiative to all adjacent enemy units"
• AggressiveCounterattack, "Attack bonus when defending"
• ThoroughPreparation, "Initiative bonus at the beginning of a mission"
• Overwatch, "Attacks enemy units which enter this unit's ZOC"
• CityFighter, "Combat bonus in city terrain"
• Evasion, "Has a certain chance to completely avoid enemy attack"
• LastStand, "Ignores all penalties from encirclements"
• Steamroller, "Any kill triggers an Overrun"
• StrikesFirst, "Unit always attacks first"
• OrganizedLanding, "No suppression when disembarking"
• CheapReplacements, "Replacements in battle cost as on deployment phase"
• Distraction, "Enemy units next to this unit do not counterattack or provide support fire"
• AllWeatherCombat, "Immunity to weather effects"
• IgnoreGroundState, "Treats muddy, snowy and frozen ground as dry"
• FerociousDefense, "Entrenchment of this unit cannot be ignored"
• TerrainExpert, "Assumes 'camouflage' in close terrain"
• TenaciousDefender, "Defense bonus for each adjacent enemy unit"
• FierceFighter, "Attack bonus for each adjacent enemy unit"
• Readiness, "Strikes first when defending"
• Resilient, "Cannot lose more than half of max strength in one go"
• Evacuation, "Unit can be quickly evacuated from the map at any point"
• IgnoreMassAttack, "Immunity to mass attack"
• ExtendedSupport, "Support fire works within full unit's range"
• BlockSupply, "Adjacent enemy units cannot get supplies or replacements"
• ReducedSlots, "Unit slot cost is reduced by 50%"
• ZeroSlots, "Unit slot cost is reduced to zero"
• AimedShot, "Gets 'aimed shot' ability. This ability trades movement action for +50% accuracy."
• DeepKnowledge, "+5 attack against units which were introduced X+ years ago"
• Famous, "Generates 10 prestige per turn"
• Legendary, "Generates 20 prestige per turn"
• FlagKiller, "Combat bonus when attacking enemy flags"

The icons for these traits are being added and I would appreciate feedback on them. Got to admit I found it difficult for some of the more abstract concepts, especially given the size, treatment and need to work at 1k and 4k.

We also need you to be aware of what combination of traits you use at any given time and report any .. anomalies, superpowers, strange lights .. we want to make sure theres no serious game changers. Or even not so serious game changers.

It would also be great if you could note any combinations you particularly like and why.

Cheers,

Pat

[Sjoa18]

Thanks Kerensky for the quick response...yes, while there was some user campaigns that had a few more from Spain, I think there was just the Madrid scenario in the original Pg2 blitz campaign. But I liked it because of the early materiel that you were restricted to.

Anyway - thanks again for the response and the heroes list.

Cheers,
Bill