Campaign Editor Copyright Question

[timberwolf15]

so with the Editor I can make a campaign from scratch all day long no problem, but, is one allowed to open for example the Ensieg Campaign and tweak just a few things: a unit here, an Objective there, but leave basically the thing the way it is and then I guess it would be appropriate to then rename it and then call it something such as "Enseigy with a twist" and then upload this as a Custom Campaign after perhaps mentioning that it is the Ensieg Campaign with a few tweaks ???? Is this allowed??
I am currently playing a campaign for about the 4th time and I thought it may be fun to edit some things and then even after doing all of this sharing it with the community this would give me by the edits a welcomed experience from the professional way the campaign was done in addition to having it play out differently cause a few things are changed ...

[bru888]

It's the "upload this as a Custom Campaign . . . Enseigy with a twist" that may be the problem, gunny.

People can certainly do whatever they want to the game, its DLC, and custom content if they keep it private. If they want to go public and publish original custom mods, campaigns, and scenarios, they need to stay within a couple more sets of boundaries: Don't harm the image of the game or try to hijack it, and don't attempt to sell your work for a profit here.

But there is a third limitation; a gentleman's agreement, if you will: Don't take somebody else's hard work, "twist" it around, and purvey it as yours. Somebody worked hard on Endsieg and I can tell you one thing with assurance: If I saw a project that I had created had been hijacked and "improved" by somebody else, I would be annoyed to put it mildly. The developer of Endsieg might have the very same reaction.

Then there is this: Endsieg is one of the things they sell to make money. You providing a "Nearsieg," say 90% Endsieg, for free undermines that.

Those are unofficial comments. If nobody in authority comes along to support or disclaim what I said, then my advice is to take my advice. Let's see if somebody in authority does come along and has something to say.

[timberwolf15]

Yeah I see your point it didn't even dawn on me that releasing something like this could basically provide the campaign for others that have never purchased it at all so that would fall under piracy yeah this type of cloning should only be done for private use thanks it sunk in. There are a few DLC stuff that I enjoy immensely more than other DLC stuff but am tired of replaying the same exact DLC stuff that I enjoy over and over it would be cool if it had a twist or two but yeah I would need to keep that private. Out of all of this I only really like about 3 of them:

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Having giving this post more thought it kind of was a stupid not well though out question... woo hooo
what does keep me sane though IS the Custom Campaigns submitted by others .... and waiting on Red Star stuff etc...Red Iron or whatever it is Red Sickle ... Red Stalin thing ...

[bru888]

Good man.

[GabeKnight]

Well, the "Uhu" forum member did some minor changes to the official WinterWar DLC and declared the whole thing a "Custom Campaign" mod. Kondi planned to release his "historic accurate" mod. Nobody protested there. The stock DLCs are commercially distibuted products and I don't see why gunny shouldn't be able to alter them and post the results here. Sure, please stay within the "sets of boundaries" and "gentleman's agreement"; give credit where credit's due and do not sell the work of others as your own.

"Piracy" concerns: I'm pretty sure those stock campaigns (and the included scens) are password protected (the scz and cmz files are ZIP archives actually) and remain like that even after editing (=you'll still need to own that DLC to be able to play the custom stuff derived from it).
Test: Gunny, try editing some Panzerkrieg DLC scens and see if you're able to play them. I think not.

[timberwolf15]

Well, the "Uhu" forum member did some minor changes to the official WinterWar DLC and declared the whole thing a "Custom Campaign" mod. Kondi planned to release his "historic accurate" mod. Nobody protested there. The stock DLCs are commercially distibuted products and I don't see why gunny shouldn't be able to alter them and post the results here. Sure, please stay within the "sets of boundaries" and "gentleman's agreement"; give credit where credit's due and do not sell the work of others as your own.

"Piracy" concerns: I'm pretty sure those stock campaigns (and the included scens) are password protected (the scz and cmz files are ZIP archives actually) and remain like that even after editing (=you'll still need to own that DLC to be able to play the custom stuff derived from it).
Test: Gunny, try editing some Panzerkrieg DLC scens and see if you're able to play them. I think not.

yeah I will probably try editing something I own just to analyze it I like analyzing but the tweaks would be so minor I would not post them / upload them - it would actually be so much easier to just do a landcp cheat and or aircp cheat then give some more resources this would change the playing ..

[Erik2]

For what it is worth...
I created a Japanese boot-camp version back in the day and asked adherbal if it was ok to publish it here.
Got a OK on that.

[timberwolf15]

For what it is worth...
I created a Japanese boot-camp version back in the day and asked adherbal if it was ok to publish it here.
Got a OK on that.

yeah I noticed that version it is a great addition to everything else you all have made.