Do routing BGs have a restricted area

hammy · Post by **hammy** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 2:39 pm

Simple enough, do broken BGs exert a restricted area?

I couldn't find anything that said they don't

marshalney2000 · Post by **marshalney2000** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 4:11 pm

Hammy like you I cannot see anything to the contrary but equally do not believe it it would be logical for them to have one. I think they would have other things on their mind.
John

hammy · Post by **hammy** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 4:14 pm

marshalney2000 wrote:Hammy like you I cannot see anything to the contrary but equally do not believe it it would be logical for them to have one. I think they would have other things on their mind.
John

I agree that it seemed odd and to be honest normally routers are not heading for the action but one of Dave's cavaly BGs ended up routing in a very 'interesting' direction.

lawrenceg · Post by **lawrenceg** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 4:21 pm

I think being about to have a herd of panic-sticken stampeding horses gallop over you would still concentrate the mind sufficiently to constrain your movement. Mind you, remaining in front of them wouldn't be top of my priority list.

Perhaps you could rationalise it as the troops deciding to stick around and slaughter the routers rather than engage in any fancy manoeuvring.

Whatever the reason, the rules don't allow you to ignore the restricted area of routers. The only exemption is battle troops pinned by skirmishers.

SirGarnet · Post by **SirGarnet** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 5:24 pm

lawrenceg wrote:I think being about to have a herd of panic-sticken stampeding horses gallop over you would still concentrate the mind sufficiently to constrain your movement. Mind you, remaining in front of them wouldn't be top of my priority list.

Perhaps you could rationalise it as the troops deciding to stick around and slaughter the routers rather than engage in any fancy manoeuvring.

Yes, that makes sense, unless the restricted area movement restrictions in a particular case led to a BG that is partially blocking routers being prevented from moving to completely block the routers and thereby terminate them in the later joint action phase, such as a routing BG turning 90 degreees towards its baseline in rout after preventing its opponent from moving round to that side to block the rout via the restricted area rule. Although the first para above could explain it.

dave_r · Post by **dave_r** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 7:35 pm

How would the BG in front of the routers actually know they were routing?

All they would see is horsemen charging towards them. "Watch what you're doing with that lance son, you could have someone's eye out with that"

kal5056 · Post by **kal5056** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:26 pm

The girlish screams might give them away.
Gino
SMAC

sagji · Post by **sagji** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:01 am

Logically broken, and fragmented, BGs should not have a restricted area.
The argument that the broken BG does have one because of the being in the path of the rout fails because the path of the rout is not determined by the direction faced.

lawrenceg · Post by **lawrenceg** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:08 am

sagji wrote:Logically broken, and fragmented, BGs should not have a restricted area.
The argument that the broken BG does have one because of the being in the path of the rout fails because the path of the rout is not determined by the direction faced.

The logic of the wording written in the rules is that they do have a restricted area.

hammy · Post by **hammy** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:10 am

lawrenceg wrote:
sagji wrote:Logically broken, and fragmented, BGs should not have a restricted area.
The argument that the broken BG does have one because of the being in the path of the rout fails because the path of the rout is not determined by the direction faced.
The logic of the wording written in the rules is that they do have a restricted area.

I agree with both statements. I thought that they shouldn't but when I checked the rules they do. It is not a massive issue and I can honestly not think of a single game prior to the one I played yesterday where the situation cropped up.