Chalons sure Marne 4000 pts a side at the Challenge

[shall]

See the Monster FOG theme for the outline of a 4000pt a side 15 player game I am keen to organised for the Friday afternoon at the Challenge if I can get enough players keen to play who can bring contingents. A great opportunity to have some fun and stretch the battle system to a massive scale. Draft contingents for all praticipants already posted on the Monster FOG stream. Take a look.

Should be fun. Now is the time to sign up.

Hope to see you there.

Si

[davidandlynda]

Lynda is planning to be there,I will be along a bit later,its cost a day off for Friday even though I only work until 12.45,We can supply a selection of warband,cavalry and Light horse but probably not enough for one of the complete armies,I'll get a list together for you Simon
David

[shall]

Excellent.

Give me a partial army and I may be able to make up the difference for Lynda

Si

[Andy1972]

Where "Shall " you play this?

[philqw78]

Where "Shall " you play this

Ascot, BHGS Challenge, UK.


I can do a Roman command Si. My Germans are a bit too early. Hammy will probably be there. Which means there may be another couple from MAWS as well.

[shall]

Ok Phil a a Roman, Hannmy as flexible, Lynda as perhaps Gepids ...

keep it coming and lets see if we can get enough

Si

[spike]

Ok Phil a a Roman, Hannmy as flexible, Lynda as perhaps Gepids ...

keep it coming and lets see if we can get enough

Si

If I can make it ( I have a few things to sort out), I have Roman's too

Spike

[shall]

Excellent Spike. Let me know. And then there were 5 ....

Si

[lawrenceg]

To make it more interesting ... Each side has a C-in-C who commands just a bodyguard BG and some messangers. The Romans have 4 messangers the Huns 2. The c-in-c is responsible for doing a deployment plan for his army and for giving initial orders to the players. This will put the major contingents into centre left or right flank areas. So the troops need not be set out as they were in the battle - its up to the team. During the game they can move their messengers backwards and forward to change order status of any player; or can use their own character to do so. So a different type of role for the c-in-c that I hope will be fun and challenging.

The order status will be very simple and players will be trusted to play in character. There will be 3 levels with the following general limitations:

Attack: at least 50% of BGs must go forward full towards enemy if physically possible.
Hold: no more than 50% of BGs can advance towards enemy, but may not withdraw from positions voluntarily.
Withdraw: at least 50% of BGs must attempt to disengage and move away from enemy.

I will act as umpire an adjudicate whether a generals plan is reasonable within their overall orders. It won't be too onerous and I will apply a bit of sensible judgement. It is there just to give the character of a big game and give a c-in-c role that is entertaining.

I probably won't be able to make it, but...

I suggest that you would be better off simply allowing the CinC to give whatever orders he likes and leave it up to the subordinates or allies exactly how, or indeed if at all, they execute them.

Then at the end the CinC's award a prize and a forfeit to their "best" and "worst" subordinates (based purely on the CinC's judgment).

[shall]

Thats a nice idea. Saves me a lot of effort and turns it into a peer pressure exercise. I can still subtly police it to prompt if not great.

I like it. We will do it this way.

TX

Si

[philqw78]

Who is what now Simon? I have been replying to both threads so am Gepids on the other and Roman here. I have just ordered 120 Gepids so it would be nice to know.

I believe Nik has closed the other thread.

[shall]

You can be Gepids. I will keep the list of who is what pretty flexible as some juggling will be needed, but resta ssured that anyone who have a burning desire to be a particualr command (especially if they have gone to soem trouble) will be well catered for.

We need a lot more players to make this work so hopefully people will fill them up over the coming couple of week. If not I will scale back and you can be Gepids and something else

Si

[GordonJ]

Hi Simon

I can field either a Hun or Visigoth cavalry army, whichever is more convenient for you: I don't mind whose side I'm on

Gordon

[shall]

Ok Gordon. Will let you know which.

Si

[philqw78]

Thought I would move this back up. Dave Ruddock is also a volunteer it seems. But both of us refuse to pay! I'll re-post the lists on here as well.

[philqw78]

Two Roman contingents as follows:

A Sub General FC - - - - - - CinC 1
B Sub General FC - - - - - - - 1
E Fortified Camp CAMP - - - - - - - 1
1 Auxiliary Foot HF Superior Drilled Protected - Light spear Swordmen - 4
Supporting Psiloi LF Superior Drilled Unprotected Bow - - - 2
2 Auxiliary Foot HF Superior Drilled Protected - Light spear Swordmen - 4
Supporting Psiloi LF Superior Drilled Unprotected Bow - - - 2
3 Auxiliary Foot HF Superior Drilled Protected - Light spear Swordmen - 4
Supporting Psiloi LF Superior Drilled Unprotected Bow - - - 2
4 Auxiliary Foot HF Average Drilled Protected - Light spear Swordmen - 4
Supporting Psiloi LF Average Drilled Unprotected Bow - - - 2
5 Auxiliary Foot HF Average Drilled Protected - Light spear Swordmen - 4
Supporting Psiloi LF Average Drilled Unprotected Bow - - - 2
6 Auxiliary Foot HF Average Drilled Protected - Light spear Swordmen - 4
Supporting Psiloi LF Average Drilled Unprotected Bow - - - 2
7 Auxiliary Foot HF Average Drilled Protected - Light spear Swordmen - 4
Supporting Psiloi LF Average Drilled Unprotected Bow - - - 2
8 Auxiliary Archers MF Average Drilled Unprotected Bow - - - 4
9 Equites Cv Superior Drilled Armoured - Light spear Swordmen - 4
10 Equites Illyricani LH Average Drilled Unprotected Javelins Light spear - - 4

Roman Visigoth Command 1

A Sub General TC - - - - - - CinC 1
B Sub General TC - - - - - - - 1
1 Bucellarii Cv Superior Undrilled Armoured - Lancers Swordmen - 4
2 Bucellarii Cv Superior Undrilled Armoured - Lancers Swordmen - 4
2 Bucellarii Cv Superior Undrilled Armoured - Lancers Swordmen - 4
3 Gardingi Cv Superior Undrilled Protected - Light spear Swordmen - 4
4 Gardingi Cv Superior Undrilled Protected - Light spear Swordmen - 4
5 Gardingi Cv Average Undrilled Protected - Light spear Swordmen - 4
6 Gardingi Cv Average Undrilled Protected - Light spear Swordmen - 4
7 Gardingi Cv Average Undrilled Protected - Light spear Swordmen - 4
8 Gardingi Cv Average Undrilled Protected - Light spear Swordmen - 4

Roman Visigoth Command 2

A Sub General TC - - - - - - CinC 1
B Sub General TC - - - - - - - 1
1 Bucellarii Cv Superior Undrilled Armoured - Lancers Swordmen - 4
2 Warriors HF Average Undrilled Protected - Impact foot Swordmen - 8
3 Warriors HF Average Undrilled Protected - Impact foot Swordmen - 8
4 Warriors HF Average Undrilled Protected - Impact foot Swordmen - 8
5 Warriors HF Average Undrilled Protected - Impact foot Swordmen - 8
6 Warriors HF Average Undrilled Protected - Impact foot Swordmen - 8
7 Warriors HF Average Undrilled Protected - Impact foot Swordmen - 8
8 Archers MF Average Undrilled Unprotected Bow - - - 8
9 Archers LF Average Undrilled Unprotected Bow - - - 8

Roman Goth Command

A Sub General TC - - - - - - CinC 1
B Sub General TC - - - - - - - 1
1 Armoured Cavalry Cv Superior Undrilled Armoured - Lancers Swordmen - 4
2 Armoured Cavalry Cv Superior Undrilled Armoured - Lancers Swordmen - 4
3 Cavalry Cv Superior Undrilled Protected - Lancers Swordmen - 4
4 Cavalry Cv Superior Undrilled Protected - Lancers Swordmen - 4
5 Cavalry Cv Superior Undrilled Protected - Lancers Swordmen - 4
6 Cavalry Cv Superior Undrilled Protected - Lancers Swordmen - 4
7 Cavalry Cv Superior Undrilled Protected - Lancers Swordmen - 4
8 Cavalry Cv Superior Undrilled Protected - Lancers Swordmen - 4
9 Archers MF Average Undrilled Unprotected Bow - - - 8
10 Archers LF Average Undrilled Unprotected Bow - - - 8
11 Archers MF Average Undrilled Unprotected Bow - - - 8
12 Archers LF Average Undrilled Unprotected Bow - - - 8


Roman Frank Command

A Sub General TC - - - - - - CinC 1 35
B Sub General TC - - - - - - - 1 35
3 Warriors HF Average Undrilled Protected - Impact foot Swordmen - 8 7
3 Warriors HF Average Undrilled Protected - Impact foot Swordmen - 8 7
3 Warriors HF Average Undrilled Protected - Impact foot Swordmen - 8 7
3 Warriors HF Average Undrilled Protected - Impact foot Swordmen - 8 7
3 Warriors HF Average Undrilled Protected - Impact foot Swordmen - 8 7
11 Archers MF Average Undrilled Unprotected Bow - - - 8 5
12 Archers LF Average Undrilled Unprotected Bow - - - 8 5
6 Cavalry Cv Superior Undrilled Protected - Light spear Swordmen - 4 12
7 Cavalry Cv Superior Undrilled Protected - Light spear Swordmen - 4 12


Roman Alan Germanic Command

A Sub General TC - - - - - - CinC 1
B Sub General TC - - - - - - - 1
1 Warriors HF Average Undrilled Protected - Impact foot Swordmen - 8
2 Warriors HF Average Undrilled Protected - Impact foot Swordmen - 8
3 Warriors HF Average Undrilled Protected - Impact foot Swordmen - 8
4 Warriors HF Average Undrilled Protected - Impact foot Swordmen - 8
5 Warriors HF Average Undrilled Protected - Impact foot Swordmen - 8
6 Archers MF Average Undrilled Unprotected Bow - - - 8
7 Archers LF Average Undrilled Unprotected Bow - - - 8
8 Alans LH Average Undrilled Unprotected Bow - Swordmen - 4
9 Alans LH Average Undrilled Unprotected Bow - Swordmen - 4
10 Alan Nobles LH Superior Undrilled Armoured - Lancers Swordmen - 4

[philqw78]

The huns ... 2 contingents as follows ...

A Sub General TC - - - - - - CinC 1
B Sub General TC - - - - - - - 1
E Fortified Camp CAMP - - - - - - - 1
1 Nobles Cv Superior Undrilled Armoured Bow - Swordmen - 4
3 Cavalry Cv Average Undrilled Protected Bow - Swordmen - 4
4 Cavalry Cv Average Undrilled Protected Bow - Swordmen - 4
5 Light Horse LH Superior Undrilled Unprotected Bow - Swordmen - 4
6 Light Horse LH Superior Undrilled Unprotected Bow - Swordmen - 4
7 Light Horse LH Superior Undrilled Unprotected Bow - Swordmen - 4
8 Light Horse LH Superior Undrilled Unprotected Bow - Swordmen - 4
9 Light Horse LH Average Undrilled Unprotected Bow - Swordmen - 4
10 Light Horse LH Average Undrilled Unprotected Bow - Swordmen - 4
11 Light Horse LH Average Undrilled Unprotected Bow - Swordmen - 4
12 Light Horse LH Average Undrilled Unprotected Bow - Swordmen - 4
13 Light Horse LH Average Undrilled Unprotected Bow - Swordmen - 4


Gepids

A Sub General TC - - - - - - CinC 1
B Sub General TC - - - - - - - 1
1 Cavalry Cv Superior Undrilled Armoured - Lancers Swordmen - 4
2 Cavalry Cv Superior Undrilled Armoured - Lancers Swordmen - 4
3 Cavalry Cv Superior Undrilled Armoured - Lancers Swordmen - 4
4 Cavalry Cv Superior Undrilled Armoured - Lancers Swordmen - 4
5 Cavalry Cv Superior Undrilled Armoured - Lancers Swordmen - 4
6 Cavalry Cv Superior Undrilled Protected - Lancers Swordmen - 4
7 Cavalry Cv Superior Undrilled Protected - Lancers Swordmen - 4
8 Cavalry Cv Superior Undrilled Protected - Lancers Swordmen - 4
9 Cavalry Cv Superior Undrilled Protected - Lancers Swordmen - 4
10 Archers MF Average Undrilled Unprotected Bow - - - 8
11 Archers MF Average Undrilled Unprotected Bow - - - 8
12 Archers MF Average Undrilled Unprotected Bow - - - 8


Rugians (and other germans)

A Sub General TC - - - - - - CinC 1
B Sub General TC - - - - - - - 1
1 Cavalry Cv Superior Undrilled Armoured - Light spear Swordmen - 4
2 Cavalry Cv Superior Undrilled Armoured - Light spear Swordmen - 4
3 Cavalry Cv Superior Undrilled Armoured - Light spear Swordmen - 4
4 Warriors HF Average Undrilled Protected - Impact foot Swordmen - 8
5 Warriors HF Average Undrilled Protected - Impact foot Swordmen - 8
6 Warriors HF Average Undrilled Protected - Impact foot Swordmen - 8
7 Warriors HF Average Undrilled Protected - Impact foot Swordmen - 8
8 Warriors HF Average Undrilled Protected - Impact foot Swordmen - 8
9 Warriors HF Average Undrilled Protected - Impact foot Swordmen - 8
10 Archers LF Average Undrilled Unprotected Bow - - - 8
11 Archers LF Average Undrilled Unprotected Bow - - - 8


Thuringians and other Germans
A Sub General TC - - - - - - CinC 1
B Sub General TC - - - - - - - 1
1 Armoured Cavalry Cv Superior Undrilled Armoured - Light spear Swordmen - 4
2 Warriors HF Average Undrilled Protected - Impact foot Swordmen - 8
3 Warriors HF Average Undrilled Protected - Impact foot Swordmen - 8
4 Warriors HF Average Undrilled Protected - Impact foot Swordmen - 8
5 Warriors HF Average Undrilled Protected - Impact foot Swordmen - 8
6 Warriors HF Average Undrilled Protected - Impact foot Swordmen - 8
7 Warriors HF Average Undrilled Protected - Impact foot Swordmen - 8
8 Archers MF Average Undrilled Unprotected Bow - - - 8
9 Archers LF Average Undrilled Unprotected Bow - - - 8
10 Archers MF Average Undrilled Unprotected Bow - - - 8
11 Archers LF Average Undrilled Unprotected Bow - - - 8


Burgundians and other Germans ...

A Sub General TC - - - - - - CinC 1
B Sub General TC - - - - - - - 1
1 Cavalry Cv Superior Undrilled Armoured - Light spear Swordmen - 4
1 Cavalry Cv Superior Undrilled Armoured - Light spear Swordmen - 4
3 Warriors HF Average Undrilled Protected - Impact foot Swordmen - 8
4 Warriors HF Average Undrilled Protected - Impact foot Swordmen - 8
5 Warriors HF Average Undrilled Protected - Impact foot Swordmen - 8
6 Warriors HF Average Undrilled Protected - Impact foot Swordmen - 8
7 Warriors HF Average Undrilled Protected - Impact foot Swordmen - 8
8 Warriors HF Average Undrilled Protected - Impact foot Swordmen - 8
9 Javelinmen LF Average Undrilled Unprotected Javelins - - - 8
10 Javelinmen LF Average Undrilled Unprotected Javelins - - - 8
11 Archers LF Average Undrilled Unprotected Bow - - - 8
12 Archers LF Average Undrilled Unprotected Bow - - - 8

[nikgaukroger]

I suppose linking to the announcement on the armies was too easy

[philqw78]

linking to the announcement on the armies was too easy

No, people are lazy. This puts the info in one place which is easier for everyone. We just need to assign people to armies on here now.

[philqw78]

The two sides in short

Roman

Roman 1
Roman 2
Visigoth 1
Visigoth 2
Goth
Frank
Alan/Germanic



Hun

Hun 1
Hun 2
Gepid
Rugians
Thuringians
Burgundians


Players so far

Me (phil) - Gepid
Spike - Roman
Gordon - Visigoth or Hun
Lynda - momey ? dependant upon agent
Si(?) - Umpire ?
Hammy - ?
Dave r - ?

I will trawl the other threads and add any I may have missed