Unused Models/Units

[Horst]

I've discovered an unused unit TD-18 that can be used as heavy tractor for US Long Tom, as Heavy Tractor M1 or M1 Heavy Tractor, and even for Soviet 122mm+ arty, as 494 were lend-leased.
https://olive-drab.com/idphoto/id_photos_ih-td18.php
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_Heavy_Tractor
Not sure about the availability, as the civilian version has been produced since 1938, but the US Army's first manual is from 12/12/1942, about the same time the Long Tom came into action on 24/12/1942 in Africa. No idea yet when the Soviets got them delivered.
Anyway, tracked tractors are unfortunately not available in the game yet, so this baby should be useful for muddy/snowy/jungle terrain.
Use TD-18 as name and models. The game even comes with a TD-18 unit-picture, so it's out-of-box ready to get played! I recommend using the Bulldozer sound entries. You can also use its other stats if you like them, but make sure it's a land_transport with proper traits and supported units.

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[GabeKnight]

I think I know what you're doing right now and maybe I can save you some time with these:

- Fiat_621
- FN_63
- Sherman_Crab

[Horst]

Yeah, checking through the unit-pictures again was my plan, but too busy posting!
Fiat_621 and FN_63 don't seem to come with a unit-picture, so too much work for me to create one on the fly now, but let's see what other easy-to-use units are still there. The Sherman_Crab looks awesome and the M4A2_Sherman attack animations seem to work fine for it.

Yay, D-Day, here I come!

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[Horst]

Besides the TD-18 and Sherman_Crab, I haven't found any other units that could be used.

For those who don't know the unused Finnish models yet:
Fin_Ski_Rifle_44
Fin_Ski_SMG_39
Fin_Ski_SMG_41
Fin_Ski_SMG_44
Fin_Ski_Panzerfaust_44

There is also an unused Gurkha_PIAT:

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[terminator]

Besides the TD-18 and Sherman_Crab, I haven't found any other units that could be used.

There is also an unused Gurkha_PIAT:

Bug with Gurkha_PIAT :

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[terminator]

Besides the TD-18 and Sherman_Crab, I haven't found any other units that could be used.

For those who don't know the unused Finnish models yet:
Fin_Ski_Rifle_44
Fin_Ski_SMG_39
Fin_Ski_SMG_41
Fin_Ski_SMG_44
Fin_Ski_Panzerfaust_44

Bug with Fin_Ski_Panzerfaust_44 :

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[terminator]

I think I know what you're doing right now and maybe I can save you some time with these:

- Fiat_621
- FN_63
- Sherman_Crab

FN_63 is not an "Unused Model" :

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[Horst]

The Polish Truck is the Fiat_621, by the way.
Yeah, I know about the dropped weapon thingie that pesters many soldiers, but I don't really care that much. I think it's okay for heavy weapons like the PIAT or Panzerfaust, but really only annoying for the cavalry dudes.

US_Marine_Thompson_42 is another unused model that I have spotted. That's maybe all.

[terminator]

I think I know what you're doing right now and maybe I can save you some time with these:

- Fiat_621

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[terminator]

The Polish Truck is the Fiat_621, by the way.
Yeah, I know about the dropped weapon thingie that pesters many soldiers, but I don't really care that much. I think it's okay for heavy weapons like the PIAT or Panzerfaust, but really only annoying for the cavalry dudes.

Maybe just an idleEffect Bug ?

[Horst]

I have no idea about the 3d-model stuff why some weapons aren't attached. The weapons have their own models, so they somehow need to be attached to the soldier models what seems buggy sometimes.

The game could really need more trucks. I particular miss heavy trucks to pull heavy artillery units. It's too lame to use a single truck for everything, hence every fully-tracked tractor is welcome too, like the terrific TD-18 there.

[terminator]

I have no idea about the 3d-model stuff why some weapons aren't attached. The weapons have their own models, so they somehow need to be attached to the soldier models what seems buggy sometimes.

It's just an idleEffect Bug not very difficult to correct :

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[Horst]

Ah yes, the Infantry45Idle effect with BazookaIdle. I already forgot about it again.

[GabeKnight]

I have no idea about the 3d-model stuff why some weapons aren't attached. The weapons have their own models, so they somehow need to be attached to the soldier models what seems buggy sometimes.

The animation issue with infantry models on horses can not be remedied that easily, IMO, but with the usual, standing-on-the-ground infantry models, it's mostly an issue with the wrong idle/move/attack sequence assigned to them.

And guys, I've done all the work with the Fin. ski-infantry in the "issues" thread already. Just check everything that's marked green and the "ski44attack" entry.

[Horst]

And guys, I've done all the work with the Fin. ski-infantry in the "issues" thread already. Just check everything that's marked green and the "ski44attack" entry.

Yes, sorry, I should have linked to this post, hence my comment "for those who don't know". I would never have noticed these unused Finnish models and bothered to search further without your post there.
I've already corrected all these effects throughout the whole units.csv file as far as I have noticed issues now, as I had also rearranged some portable rocket launcher stuff among all factions for more accurate appearances.

[GabeKnight]

I've got two more for you:

(found by chance with my limited unit knowledge...I'm sure there's even more to be found... )

- minerva_AC
- PzJg_Elefant
- (midget) - a cool submarine model, but doesn't seem to work right

top: the vanilla "Elefant" model

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[Horst]

Very interesting!
That Minerva looks funny. I'm going to create it later as unit to check it out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minerva_Armored_Car

I wonder why there are two model names Ferdinand and Elefant but both look the same.
Early Ferdinand: http://www.wardrawings.be/WW2/Files/1-V ... _early.htm
Late Elefant: http://www.wardrawings.be/WW2/Files/1-V ... t_late.htm
Normally, the Ferdinand had no machinegun but both models seem to have one. However, the lower on in the screenshot should be the late one with the new commander's cupola although the other hatch is wrong.
I think I'll stick to the already used one as it has more details and better looking rollers.

The midget should be a mini for aircraft carrier decks. See Sub_TypeA

[GabeKnight]

I wonder why there are two model names Ferdinand and Elefant but both look the same.
Normally, the Ferdinand had no machinegun but both models seem to have one.

You're wrong there. The models are different: the Ferdinand model has no MG, the Elefant does. The only thing that's wrong is the firing sequence, and I don't know if this was corrected in v7.1.6 already, but most definitely in my mod.

The midget should be a mini for aircraft carrier decks. See Sub_TypeA

Yeah, could be that it was some model appendix, rather than a full scale model.

[GabeKnight]

Very interesting!
That Minerva looks funny. I'm going to create it later as unit to check it out.

The model has a working turret, but as far as I can see the weapon points are missing. Probably there won't be any firing effects visible (or possible at all).

It could be used as transport for some VIP commander / infantry units, though....