True Japanese & US commanders

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1. Land commander - "Wehrmacht/Stalingrad/Unidentified Grenadier in Stalingrad 1942. Commons: Bundesarchiv." (description under the photo)
2. Unfortunately, he's not Rudel but hauptmann Hartmut Schairer

Below interesting info from Portugal website about Luftwaffe (translated thanks to Google :wink: :mrgreen: ):

" Born on 16 September 1916 in the locality of Nagold (Black Forest), Germany, Hartmut Schairer began his military career by joining the Kriegsmarine in 1936 as Fähnrich. However, in the same year he was transferred to the Luftwaffe and promoted to Leutnant.
After passing the pilot training, he was assigned to serve with the 7./St.G 1 (7th Staffel of the Stuka-geschwader 1), unit with which he was at the outbreak of World War II in September 1939. Schairer took part the French Campaign (May / June 1940), the operations on the English Channel and the Battle of Britain.
The following year he would conduct missions during the Crete invasion (May 1941), attacks on Malta and North Africa, receiving credit for the sinking of one destroyer and four supply ships, as well as damaging six other vessels.
Appointed Staffelkapitän of 7/St.G 1 at the beginning of Operation Barbarrossa, the Oberleutnant Schairer would distinguish himself as both pilot and flight leader, for which he was awarded the Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross on August 30, 1941 , after running more than 150 combat missions.
On July 19, 1942, after an attack on Soviet tanks, Schairer was killed in action when his Junkers Ju87 Stuka caught fire and fell from an altitude of 400m near Staraya-Russa because of the damage suffered. Along with him, also his faithful Bordfunker, the Oberfeldwebel Heinz Bevernis, who would receive the Knight's Cross posthumously - the first Stuka radio operator to receive this honor, died.
Upon his death, Hauptmann Hartmut Schairer had executed a total of 562 combat missions with the Junkers Ju87."


http://www.luftwaffe39-45.historia.nom. ... hairer.htm
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Re: True Japanese & US commanders

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Ah thanks, the nose of Schairer looked similar but he definitely misses Rudel's devilish grin. Germany is more or less identified then.
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Ok, the commanders which I present in several subsequent posts are not perfectly matched, but quite similar to those in the game, so I think we can pay tribute to them by placing their names in OoB
Unfortunately, I can't find exactly the same photos which were used to create their portraits. There are simply too many pictures of American pilots from World War II, so it's Sisyphean work. If anyone finds a picture that will be better suited to these characters, please don't hesitate to put it in this thread... :wink:
So to the point...


1. Lieutenant Commander Edward Henry "Butch" O'Hare - Medal of Honor awarded (his father was Al Capone's lawyer :!: :shock: )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_O%27Hare
However, I have to admit that I found a better picture (maybe even the right one - attached), but this person is anonymous one, he is "anonymous US Navy pilot and dog in the aircraft cabin on the Midway Atoll", so I think that "Butch" was a better choice :wink: 8) :!:

2. Lieutnant Tom Killefer, US Navy fighter squadron VF-17 (Vought F4U-1A Corsair), he shot down four Japanese Zero fighter planes, earning him the Distinguished Flying Cross, the Naval Air Medal and the Purple Heart. He was the most similar... :roll:
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1. Lieutnant John Billings - bomber commander, 484th Bomb Group, 825Squadron (B-24 Liberator) based In Italy Aug 44 May 45,14 Bombing Missions
He participated in a special forces operation called "Greenup", piloting an airplane from which allied spies jumped with a parachute
https://specialoperations.com/32756/oss ... n-of-wwii/

2. Ensign Smith, US Navy, VBF-8 Sqd, I've found this photo but nothing more...
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Great work, really. I've just finished transcribing them into my mod.
Thanks again, Kondi! :)
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GabeKnight wrote: Sun Jan 27, 2019 6:57 am Great work, really. I've just finished transcribing them into my mod.
Thanks again, Kondi! :)
Thanks Gabe, I've completely forgotten about this thread... :oops:
And I have some interesting finds, do you know that the portrait of one of the US Navy commanders is a photo of a great American television star when he was in the army? :shock: :mrgreen: :?
In the evening I will put a photo and explain what is going on :idea:
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One of the commanders in OoB is famous Johnny Carson, 60/70s television comic, actor and talkshow star :lol:
He was a midshipman (lowest officer rank in US Navy) on the battleship USS Pennsylvania in 1943-45

http://historylocker.com/these-25-celeb ... mous-2/15/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Carson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Pennsylvania_(BB-38)
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Cool. Heard of him, but don't know if I ever actually saw something he was in.
Thanks, Kondi, added.
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GabeKnight wrote: Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:15 am Cool. Heard of him, but don't know if I ever actually saw something he was in.
Thanks, Kondi, added.

It's not cool, I think Devs should try harder and find real heroes or commanders.
I believe that the choice of this character (Carson) was absolutely accidental. :roll:

I didn't want to write about it but one of the US air commanders fought but not in this war, only in the war in Korea :?
Part of the US navy commanders are probably Royal Navy officers !!! :evil:

But today I found a real curiosity - do you remember the "fictional tanker" from the Burmese campaign called Henry Sanders?
In fact, it is Major David Vivian Currie, a Canadian decorated with Victoria Cross for his extraordinary bravery and leadership. He commanded mechanized battle group from 29th Armoured Reconnaissance Regiment (South Alberta Rgt) from the 4th Canadian Armoured Division during the battle of Falaise in Normandy !!!
Not only he's not British, but he probably has never been in Burma...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Vivian_Currie
https://thediscoverblog.com/2014/12/02/ ... an-currie/

I think that the creators of this game should really carefully prepare their productions from the historical point of view.
If they don't have time or will, I can become their historical consultant, completely non-profit :wink:
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OK, OK, maybe not cool from a pure historical point of view, but defintely cool to have you as human-facial-recognition program :wink:
Next time I'll be looking for someone, I know who to hire for that job... :lol:
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GabeKnight wrote: Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:14 pm OK, OK, maybe not cool from a pure historical point of view, but defintely cool to have you as human-facial-recognition program :wink:
Next time I'll be looking for someone, I know who to hire for that job... :lol:
Human-facial-recognition program :lol:
Interesting job, connected with new technologies :mrgreen:

But seriously, I found him completely by accident thanks to my historical passion... I just read an article about the battle of Falaise and saw his picture (this one at the very bottom - at MG), he seemed to me very similar to Sanders, so I searched Google and please, here you are... 8)
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Commander John Brown :?:

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US Marine in action at Peleliu Island, Palau Islands, Ca. September 1944. (Navy)Exact Date Shot Unknown :

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I found the one of the GI at Peleliu today - Cdr John Brown doesn't quite get there in terms of terror, grief, and weariness all rolled in to one guy.

I found these other OoB stars, too, that should be a bit taken aback by their renderings. May they rest in peace, wherever they may have found it.
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The photo above is by William Eugene Smith, one of the most influential US photographers of the 20th century. Unfortunately, the Marine in the picture (Marine Sgt Angelo Konis) was captured at Saipan. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... aipan.html
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I actually thought the British tank commander was a sleight-of-hand reference to US Sen Ted Cruz, R-Tx. Sorry if that ruins anyone's day.
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One more, Pfc Edward G. Foley, who IRL appears to be a solid soldier, attending to his weapon.
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Apologies, because it's a bit of a non-sequitur for this thread, but this fellow:

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turns out to be this person IRL, "The Mighty Jingles":

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The clue was the use of commander_87 in the Battle of Britain mod and their referring to him as "JINGLES":

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[Which probably everybody here knew, except for me. :roll: ]
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kondi, good find about Major David Vivian Currie, VC. I thought I had a "Eureka" moment and dug up this thread only to find that you had beaten me to the punch. I had completely forgotten that you had identified him previously. Kudos.
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